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Old November 10th, 2012, 12:22 PM   #121

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Perhaps I wrote this wrong, what I meant was how small the health consequences are
Fair enough, maybe I was a little harsh there.

But I would say the problem with weed is that the health consequences are not small - for those with a bad disposition to it. Which unfortunately the awareness of such problems comes too little too late and the person has already gone into meltdown. Many people can smoke it and carry on as normal in a perfectly coherent manner, but many don't and end up screwed up. So it is not harmless. I actually think peoples attitudes are too easy going about it. Mainly because young kids feel it is harmless yet it is still a drug and it does have certain affects which can be long standing and mess the person up.

Making an adult decision to smoke weed it one thing. But many of these young kids don't realise the full strength of what this drug can do and how it can affect their lives.

I don't agree with it being legalized, not to spoil the fun for those who genuinely enjoy it, who it does not harm. But because I hate the bloody smell of it too!

I just think if people are going to compare it to alcohol (which can be extremely harmful even though many do it on a regular basis) that it is unfair to make claims that weed is harmless and has no ill effects. It does have ill effects and can even make a person hallucinate and have a complete mental breakdown.

Alcohol is another tricky one to debate, but at least it does not smell and others do not have to breathe it in.

I know this won't make me very popular but hey, got to honest, even someone who is a weed smoker must admit that it does screw some people up in a bad way.

Being for it or against it is one thing. But honestly, it does not harm everyone, but it is not much spoken about how it messes people up - which it does on a grand scale. I have seen it with my own eyes, just as I have with alcohol.

All things in moderation and if it does not gel with ya' and makes you crazy, don't do it.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 12:29 PM   #122

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Oh and I'm terribly sorry my dear but I have never had any hallucinations from Marijuana in smoking form or eating form...
I know many that have.

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Well, that would be why it would be restricted for adult use only, like alcohol. Besides which, you can't just state outright that it causes mental illness. Maybe in some people it can. But "mental illness" is not a general or even common side effect.

No drug is harmless, but some are more harmful than others and that's why the most addictive drugs are illegal or restricted by prescription. Alcohol is quite addictive, yet it remains legal because most people use it responsibly. To my mind, that's why marijuana should be legal. It's not nearly as addictive as alcohol (physically, anyway), I've never heard of anyone dying of an overdose of it, and the majority of people use it responsibly. For it to be illegal while alcohol is not is ridiculous.
Yes I can, because it does. I ain't getting into now as I'm logging off soon to bed, but I will find some sources to back up my claim because it is true.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #123

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I know this won't make me very popular but hey, got to honest, even someone who is a weed smoker must admit that it does screw some people up in a bad way.
Well not exactly, the vast majority of people just want to lay down and take everything as calm as possible. And that is the main concern, people will just not care about their problems for a while and will do as little as possible.

A friend of mine got small brain damage from smoking weed BUT
He got this because we were smoking weed and we didn't know where it came from.
In the end it turned out to be silver haze, a strong form of weed.
Had we bought it in a legal store then nothing would have happened.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 12:35 PM   #124

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Should marijuana be legalized for recreational use yes or no? Please support your answer.
I don't like the crap myself, but I feel it should be legalized and regulated the way alcohol is. JMHO.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #125

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i was a detox nurse for about 1.5 years and not once did i admit anyone for weed only. probably 60% came in for alcohol. i'm not saying weed is harmless but it's toll on the body is far less than alcohol or any other recreational drug.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #126

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Yes I can, because it does. I ain't getting into now as I'm logging off soon to bed, but I will find some sources to back up my claim because it is true.
I've no doubt that it can. I take exception to the characterization that "using marijuana causes mental illness" because that's a broad generalization that is simply not true for most users. Practically everyone I know has smoked pot at one time or another, if not regularly, and not one of them has become mentally ill as a result, even the ones who started using as young teenagers.

Alcohol, however, has rotted the brain, liver, and pancreas of several friends and family members, including my favorite brother who died of his alcoholism last year. You'll never convince me that weed is more dangerous than alcohol. I've simply seen too much evidence to the contrary.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 01:39 PM   #127

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not only marijuana should be legal but all kinds of drugs should be legal, too. if i wanna get high, it's my problem. the state can go suck it and has no right to intervene whatsoever. if i am harming myself it is 100% my personal choice. moreover, people like to get high. this has been going on more than just the 20 and 21th centuries. it is not stoppable. making drugs illegal didn't stop people from using it.

make it legal, so drug related crime goes down and people don't kill each other for it. also people would get purer drugs, standard quality and the state will gain extra funding from the sales. but they will not ever do it. then who is gonna buy guns? which officials will skim the drug profits?
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Old November 10th, 2012, 01:39 PM   #128

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i was a detox nurse for about 1.5 years and not once did i admit anyone for weed only. probably 60% came in for alcohol. i'm not saying weed is harmless but it's toll on the body is far less than alcohol or any other recreational drug.

Then again, whereas one glass of red wine is absolutely harmless, in fact even healthy for ya; every cigarette (and thus most certainly joints with weed having on average 10x higher tar levels than tobacco) does irreparable damage to the lungs.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 01:46 PM   #129

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You cannot stop people from doing it and so prohibiting it is counter productive.

You can only help people do it with as little harm as possible - as with alcohol - you will not stop anyone from doing it, and prohibiting it only makes it easier for children to access and gangs and criminals to make money off of it.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 02:01 PM   #130

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Absolutely not, it only brings down society.
It should be only for legal medical prescription.
Each following person is going to have their own
stand on it, but this is mine.
It doesn't bring down society. -_-

But considering this is your opinion, I take it you are also in favor of making alcohol illegal since it is related to 25,000 to 75,000 deaths per year in the US.
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