Philosophy Dilemma 2 - Page 2 - Historum

Tennenbaum · February 26th, 2011, 06:08 AM

If A's thoughts and memories are put in B, then A becomes B. If B's thoughts and memories are put in A, the B becomes A.

So if I start out as A I would choose answer 2.

**Toltec** · February 27th, 2011, 03:28 AM

Interesting, so far most people seem to think we are more out thoughts and memories than our bodies.

If uor thoughts and memories were put in another body, would it really be us. The different architecture of the new body we were in, different sensary experiences, different brain structure, would surely start to effect us and we're a new person.

Similary the new thoughts and memories in our bodies would suffer the same effects, and after a while you may after a while have two people who a pretty close to what they were originally, before the exchange.

Tennenbaum · February 27th, 2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Toltec

Interesting, so far most people seem to think we are more out thoughts and memories than our bodies.

If uor thoughts and memories were put in another body, would it really be us. The different architecture of the new body we were in, different sensary experiences, different brain structure, would surely start to effect us and we're a new person.

Similary the new thoughts and memories in our bodies would suffer the same effects, and after a while you may after a while have two people who a pretty close to what they were originally, before the exchange.

That is a pretty good point. It's also why memory/thought transference is probably not a viable pursuit, at least not until we have a much deeper understanding of the brain.

**Charlie Bravo** · February 27th, 2011, 08:33 AM

Amit Goswami might say that the consciousness would effect the new body and brain, rather than the other way around.

Tennenbaum · February 27th, 2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Bravo

Amit Goswami might say that the consciousness would effect the new body and brain, rather than the other way around.

"Quantum Activism" is an awesome name for a movement.

**Charlie Bravo** · February 27th, 2011, 09:29 AM

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"Quantum Activism" is an awesome name for a movement.

I know. I saw a doc on him last night. Intriguing fellow.

**unclefred** · February 27th, 2011, 09:35 AM

A into B equals C. As Toltec mentioned, the 'Mind' is a process of brain and body in conjunction. This is a fine book which illustrates that thought:

Amazon.com: Descartes' Error: Emotion, Reason, and the Human Brain (9780143036227): Antonio Damasio: Books

sylla1 · February 27th, 2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by unclefred

A into B equals C. As Toltec mentioned, the 'Mind' is a process of brain and body in conjunction. This is a fine book which illustrates that thought:
Amazon.com: Descartes' Error: Emotion, Reason, and the Human Brain (9780143036227): Antonio Damasio: Books

That's exactly why the OP is just an entirely hypothetical model, useful just for a philosophical debate.

The same as any other (non-viral) biological activity, the mind is a product of the addition of myriad cellular activities (neurons in this case).

Humans (including A & B of the OP) wouldn't be able to "interchange" minds & bodies any more than musical instruments would be able to "interchange" hardware & sounds.

Tennenbaum · March 2nd, 2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sylla1

That's exactly why the OP is just an entirely hypothetical model, useful just for a philosophical debate.

The same as any other (non-viral) biological activity, the mind is a product of the addition of myriad cellular activities (neurons in this case).

Humans (including A & B of the OP) wouldn't be able to "interchange" minds & bodies any more than musical instruments would be able to "interchange" hardware & sounds.

So far as we know