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November 12th, 2011, 12:22 PM
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#1 | | Scholar
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Currently rusticating in the dank, smelly fleshpots of Acton, Ealing location of the August Riots Posts: 525 | 7 Billion People: Is there really a problem?
Recent stats have been causing fresh contoversy over the malthusian theory. I do not believe that overpopulation is actually an issue that should seriously be worried about. I believe this because I am convinced that there are better arguments against it than the malthusian arguments (which support it).
Any thoughts on this issue?...
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November 12th, 2011, 12:27 PM
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#2 | | Epicurean
Joined: Mar 2009 From: Texas Posts: 23,937 |
Seven billion people need to be fed and housed somehow.
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November 12th, 2011, 12:33 PM
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#3 | | Historian
Joined: Jan 2011 From: Southeast England Posts: 5,489 |
I don't see what is so magical about the seven billion figure. We don't appear to have run out of space yet.
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November 12th, 2011, 12:37 PM
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#4 | | Scholar
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Currently rusticating in the dank, smelly fleshpots of Acton, Ealing location of the August Riots Posts: 525 | Quote:
Originally Posted by tjadams Seven billion people need to be fed and housed somehow. | Of course they do. , some of the main issues that prevent food distribution are:
-war (which destroys harvest produce and obstruct relief efforts)
-poverty (which prevents people from buying food they need)
-lack of infastructure (which prevents people from distributing food properly)
Overpopulation has never been a significant factor of world hunger. Blaming overpopulation really distracts us fom the real issues that cause world hunger.
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November 12th, 2011, 12:39 PM
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#5 | | Scholar
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Currently rusticating in the dank, smelly fleshpots of Acton, Ealing location of the August Riots Posts: 525 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Louise C I don't see what is so magical about the seven billion figure. We don't appear to have run out of space yet. | quite, or food
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November 12th, 2011, 01:28 PM
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#6 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Dec 2009 From: Ozarkistan Posts: 11,335 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Thechristianphilosopher Recent stats have been causing fresh contoversy over the malthusian theory. I do not believe that overpopulation is actually an issue that should seriously be worried about. I believe this because I am convinced that there are better arguments against it than the malthusian arguments (which support it).
Any thoughts on this issue?... | Malthusian arguments are not required (although they are valid). The manifest rapidly deteriorating condition of the human environment is proof positive, and I'm not just mouthing "global warming". Open your eyes.
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November 12th, 2011, 01:30 PM
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#7 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Dec 2009 From: Ozarkistan Posts: 11,335 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Louise C I don't see what is so magical about the seven billion figure. We don't appear to have run out of space yet. | Space? Go live in the middle of spacious Sahara Desert, and give us your daily update.
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November 12th, 2011, 01:40 PM
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#8 | | Scholar
Joined: Sep 2011 From: Currently rusticating in the dank, smelly fleshpots of Acton, Ealing location of the August Riots Posts: 525 | Quote:
Originally Posted by corrocamino The manifest rapidly deteriorating condition of the human environment is proof positive, |
Rapidly deteriorating? Go live in the middle ages, and give us your daily update. ;-)
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November 12th, 2011, 02:48 PM
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#9 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2010 From: Retired - This Mountain isn't on a Map Posts: 2,777 | Quote: |
Go live in the middle ages, and give us your daily update
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the middle ages didn't have the benefit of "modern" medicine --
1) take away modern medicine ---
2) take away the chemicals we put in the ground to grow more food
3) take away the transportation system
4) take away "electricity"
none of these things were available in the middle ages --- all this being said -- we live our lives right now on the basis of "technology" -- this is human made -- human made things do, will, and eventually "fail" --- then "what"
this has all come up on other and past threads -- if these systems "fail" -- as in the recent ice storm in the northwest --- without the "massive" rescue effort that was made --- ??????????
and the enviroment is going down the tubes -- if your suggusting go live in another time frame --- maybe you should consider living in New Orleans during the hurricane and we won't send you anything ------ ?????
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November 12th, 2011, 03:26 PM
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#10 | | Historian
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,212 |
Well, there is the One Child per household policy in China. One-child policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Some claim it causes gender discrimination.
I'd have to say, yes, population growth, and even population control, are big issues if the numbers are accurate.
With current industries building for a future of disposable products for the purpose of profits, rather than a future of long term sustainable quality products. Then, it makes the issue potentially harder on the environment and the people who work for profit, as opposed to living for life. | | |
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