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Old November 14th, 2012, 01:44 PM   #661
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Here it is.
Right now if some people would keep reading dow to matt:21-37 he gives examples of how the old laws should be viewed.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 01:46 PM   #662

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Leviticus 20:13

1 Cor 6:9
1 tim 1:10

If you don't get into the kingdom of God or are not already in the kingdom of God you are condemned.
I'm not sure why you are posting Leviticus since you just got done saying that the old law is no longer in effect for Christians.

1 Corinthians places idolaters in the same sentence and 1 Timothy places liars in the same sentence.

So liars and idolaters are no worse than homosexuals then?

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Where does it say that?
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Right now if some people would keep reading dow to matt:21-37 he gives examples of how the old laws should be viewed.
Apparently people who do not observe the old laws will be considered the least in the Kingdom of God isn't that right?
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It's interesting to me that the Abrahamic religions seem to concern themselves a great deal with human sexuality, dictating who can do what to whom. As far as I know, this isn't a common property of other religions.

In Buddhism, for example, depending on the school, homosexuality isn't particularly frowned upon - at least, no more than other forms of sexuality, which are all regarded as manifestations of worldly desire from which one has to free oneself.

While cultures dominated by non-Abrahamic religions do have sexual prohibitions, many of these are arguably cultural rather than having a root in religion.
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I'm not sure why you are posting Leviticus since you just got done saying that the old law is no longer in effect for Christians.

1 Corinthians places idolaters in the same sentence and 1 Timothy places liars in the same sentence.

So liars and idolaters are no worse than homosexuals then?



Where does it say that?
I was contrasting the new with the old. Idolaters, liars and all sinners are at risk. all sin is sin god wants you to try and be perfect but not all sin is equal. Example john 19 11

the punishments are just different and Certain sins are abomination to god the bible is loaded with examples of this. Gays are clearly worse off than liars.
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It's interesting to me that the Abrahamic religions seem to concern themselves a great deal with human sexuality, dictating who can do what to whom. As far as I know, this isn't a common property of other religions.

In Buddhism, for example, depending on the school, homosexuality isn't particularly frowned upon - at least, no more than other forms of sexuality, which are all regarded as manifestations of worldly desire from which one has to free oneself.

While cultures dominated by non-Abrahamic religions do have sexual prohibitions, many of these are arguably cultural rather than having a root in religion.
That's an interesting point . . . . I wonder what the root of that could be?
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I was contrasting the new with the old. Idolaters, liars and all sinners are at risk. all sin is sin god wants you to try and be perfect but not all sin is equal. Example john 19 11

the punishments are just different and Certain sins are abomination to god the bible is loaded with examples of this. Gays are clearly worse off than liars.
How is it clear that gays are worse off than liars? Does the Bible say that gays are worse off than liars or is that your own judgement that you are casting onto gays?

I'm pretty sure the Bible says the punishment for sin is the same.
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I was contrasting the new with the old. Idolaters, liars and all sinners are at risk. all sin is sin god wants you to try and be perfect but not all sin is equal. Example john 19 11

the punishments are just different and Certain sins are abomination to god the bible is loaded with examples of this. Gays are clearly worse off than liars.
This is a sociological discussion, not a religious one. Please keep this line of disapproval free and clear of this thread.
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Apparently people who do not observe the old laws will be considered the least in the Kingdom of God isn't that right?
All those who do not observe the spirit of the old law which is defined by the new law given to us by christ will make not it into the kingdom of god that is the essence of matt 5. This is not hard to understand. The jew of his time lived by the letter of the law but not the spirit and god does not like that.
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All those who do not observe the spirit of the old law which is defined by the new law given to us by christ will make not it into the kingdom of god that is the essence of matt 5. This is not hard to understand. The jew of his time lived by the letter of the law but not the spirit and god does not like that.
Did you not see the warning about religion in this discussion?
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