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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:31 AM   #1

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Is not being naked a moral value?


Do you think It has anything to do with being good or bad?

Or Is just a good mannership custom, like any definition of gentlemenships, .. using spoon, knife when eating, being polite...

Why are whores thought to be immoral?
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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:44 AM   #2

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Do you think It has anything to do with being good or bad?

Or Is just a good mannership custom, like any definition of gentlemenships, .. using spoon, knife when eating, being polite...

Why are whores thought to be immoral?
My personal and questionable perspective:

According to biologists and anthropologists, the need for cloths is connected with the loss of the fury.

Then there is the matter of hygiene: underwear protects genital and sensitive parts of the body.

Then there is the problem that male humans are always fertile, so that nudity can cause hormonal disequilibrium. If wanted / requested by the woman, that's not a problem, on the contrary it's on the side of the man to control oneself.

So, an excess of nudity is a potential trouble [overall female nudity, male nudity is usually more ridiculous than exciting ...].

I think that whores have seen as immoral because they "endanger" the social tranquility [and family integrity: a certain percentage of married men go with whores].
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Old March 14th, 2012, 05:59 AM   #3

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It is a cultural value. Obviously there are many cultures, typically warmer climates, where they wear little to no clothing and get by fine.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:03 AM   #4

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It's certainly an aesthetic value! People look more attractive on the whole when shielded behind a certain amount of clothing. Though with obvious exceptions. Clothing also enhances people's individuality.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:05 AM   #5

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Morally speaking, this is related to the virtue of modesty.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:10 AM   #6

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Nakedness is not a moral issue, it is a cultural and religious one. People had very different perception of what is shameful throughout history, and there were eras when the human body was admired openly, and its nakedness was celebrated (see ancient Greece for example).

The same is true about prostitution. Regarding Europe, it is Christianity that labelled it immoral and usually illegal. In antiquity it was considered a very socially acceptable profession. I believe Eastern cultures (Japanese, Chinese) had also similar views towards prostitution.

Prostitution_in_ancient_Greece Prostitution_in_ancient_Greece


http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/greece/hetairai/hetairai.html


Empress Theodora, arguably the most powerful woman in Byzantine (and Roman in general) history, had been a prostitute in her youth. Perhaps during the early days of Christianity, the 'immorality' of prostitution hadn't settled in as in later years.

Theodora (wife of Justinian I) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Nowadays, I don't think either issue is a taboo. Nudism has many followers, and as long as it is practised with care not to offend others, there should be no problem. There are many nudist beaches, in my country too, where people know what to expect when to go there; if they feel offended, that's their problem and their responsibility to avoid those beaches. On the other hand, there are laws against being nude in public generally, and since most people do mind other people's nakedness, I think this is also reasonable.

Prostitution is legal in most countries (or it should be), and the concern of the law is about public health and working protection of the people involved. Illegal prostitution is another matter, and it should be cracked down upon, to protect public health and the victims of trafficking.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:12 AM   #7

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When, where and how people wear clothes surely does have moral implications, it is just that it would be hard to claim, I think, that the wearing of clothes is directly a moral virtue. Naturists who put aside the wearing of clothes under certain conditions are not necessarily lacking in modesty.

The fact that prostitution has been accepted more easily in certain cultures does not mean that this is not a moral issue, any more than with cannibalism. It can reasonably be argued that prostituting oneself, or consorting with prostitutes, is immoral behaviour.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:21 AM   #8

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It's certainly an aesthetic value! People look more attractive on the whole when shielded behind a certain amount of clothing. Though with obvious exceptions. Clothing also enhances people's individuality.
Is it good for the skin to be suffocated so? Maybe that's why pale and pasty bodies don't always look the best. They are devoid of vitamin E from not being exposed to the sun properly, and sweat gets held close to the skin, rather than being able to evaporate properly. Also hair becomes more thick and course.

Though, maybe we know better than nature.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 07:30 AM   #9

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Do you think It has anything to do with being good or bad?

Or Is just a good mannership custom, like any definition of gentlemenships, .. using spoon, knife when eating, being polite...

Why are whores thought to be immoral?
Efendi, that gave me the day's first belly laugh, much obliged.

I know English isn't your first language (and since everyone else has been too polite) it has to be mentioned that using the word 'whore' in itself presupposes a moral judgement. The 'world's oldest profession' has accumulated many synonyms and inevitably most of them are extremely derogative, none more so perhaps than the word 'whore' itself. If we are to talk about the subject in neutral terms then it is probably best to stick with the tried & trusted and non-judgemental word 'prostitute'.

As to the OP, all levels of attire from fuly clothed to fully naked have been and are observed up to this day so humans may be said to have no intrinsic aversion to seeing one another striding around in their 'birthday suits'. Thus, it is 'neither good or bad but thinking making so' as the Bard would say.

The levels of nakedness which any society is prepared to tolerate is thus determined largely by cultural factors but as a general rule the less clothes a culture is accustomed to wearing the less taboos are usually in place. Things only become 'good' or 'bad' if someone consciously transgresses the accepted cultural norms and this is usually done by donning far less apparel than is considered appropriate. A half naked Kalahari bush man striding through down town Riyadh with his mate in tow would not go down well with the local religious police any more than a couple having sex on a public park bench would here.
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Why are whores thought to be immoral?
This is something I also often wonder about. Why do some people think 'whore' is the worst thing they can call a woman? When they are out of expletives or of invective-filled condemning words in general, 'slut' is how they end their tirade. A slut? Really? What is so bad about that? To me that only shows how scared the society is of a woman that says she'll do with her body as she pleases and goes ahead and does it.
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