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Old May 30th, 2012, 08:44 PM   #11

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But can you not see one of the main reasons people do drugs is because its illegal so if you make it legal you will take problem of it away
No that's not the main reason I suppose, they do it because they feel pleasure in it and that is a choice. It is my stand, that drugs, should be treated like alcohol and cigarettes, so they should also be available to people who wanna be into it. Life is a choice for a long as the rights of others are not affected. Doing ones thing inside a particular area which do not bother other people, is an expression of freewill and freedom.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 08:45 PM   #12

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At some points governments will be forced to legalize drugs, whether they like it or not. As it stands, prisons in countries like the US are overcrowded, and the amount of resources being used to fight drugs is needed elsewhere. I suppose they'll start with milder drugs such as marijuana and hashish, but eventually they'll move on to other drugs.
That's the way I see the future of these substances. Like, what I'd said, alcohol used to be prohibited in America.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #13

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What about construction of a place where junkies can do their thing, without being arrested by the government authorities, the way it is done in certain jurisdictions of Canada? Rather, there is nurse or heath care aid, who assists them, with the injection of heroine so they won't be infected and are provided with oxygen, when they gasp for air due to high dosage of the substance.
I personally believe that drugs like Coke and Heroin are dangerous and should stay illegal. Weed isn't as dangerous and addictive as most illegal drugs, and should be legalized.
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I personally believe that drugs like Coke and Heroin are dangerous and should stay illegal. Weed isn't as dangerous and addictive as most illegal drugs, and should be legalized.
The problem is that making these things illegal doesn't stop them from being sold, but instead of the government selling them and collecting taxes, the underground sells them.

One advantage of such drugs being legal is that they can be diluted. Tobacco, for instance, is very powerful when smoked from the fields. It can make people see things differently and feel high. Cigarettes, however, use diluted tobacco, enabling milder effects. The same could be done with coke and heroin.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 09:22 PM   #15

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ALL illegal drugs should be legalised, yesterday.


I base my position on utilitarianism ,pragmatism,and the notion there is a limit to which a government can and should go to protect people from their self destructive behaviour.

I have held this position for over 40 years,and will be glad to outline my reasons if anyone is interested. My argument is pragmatic,not moral.
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Old May 30th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #16

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^Pragmatic and utilitarian are logical
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Take the money out the drug institutions.

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I fully agree "decriminalizing and regulating them". It isn't so much the druggies it is the money that it takes for a habit.

Constitutional Amendment so Courts cannot tweek it.

1. Criminalize all distribution of the vial drugs. Violators and accomplices: a. First Time charge 5yr prison with Bubba. The rest: are to be executed publicly within three months from arrest..

2. Give first week of month drug needs free to the user.

3. Charge users only cost for next two weeks.

4. Charge users two times cost for remainder of month.

5. Continue cycle every month with a demonstration of entry into a rehab program.

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Absolutely never & no argument or reason on the face of this planet will ever change my mind.
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It is badder to imprison people who wanna exercise their choice that does not concern that of others, and that is simply tyrannic, due to draconian laws that pronounce, drugs, as illegal substances.
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I think they should be legalised because I don't think it is justified to ban people from using them, any more than I think it justified to ban cigarettes or alcahol. People should be able to buy them legally, but they should carry health warnings, like cigarettes do.
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