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Old November 19th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #41
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I have a few contradictions as well. Though of course a conservative or socialist in one country can be something else in another.

Militarist = I believe we should have a strong military and have no problem with dealing with tyrants. We should just be consistent and not lie about it. No more WMD excuses.

Right wing = Immigration should only be for those who are escaping persecution, not for cheap labour and to solve other countries problems economic problems.

Conservative = If the unemployed can't find work, they should be made to do the un skilled jobs we currently use immigrants for. And benefits should only be for those who really need them.

Monarchist = I fully support the British crown and all republicans should be deported

Freedom of choice = People should be allowed to live their lives in what ever way they want providing it doesn't hurt anyone else. This includes gay marriage, abortion and the right to die.
The only contradiction there is the last one
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Old November 19th, 2012, 09:58 PM   #42
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1.Sustainable utilitarianist

2.Social democrat

3.Pro-anarchic direct democrat (paving the way towards anarchy)

4.Pro-Globalization (world government of the likes of European Union and Nato)

5.Secular Liberal (pro-choice but the choice must fall on both parents unless the mother was raped or unless she can prove that she was abandoned by the father, I believe in gay marriage and maybe en gays adopting children, I believe in the legality of polyandry and polygyny, the illegality of hate crimes, the illegality of honour killings, that blasphemy is a right, the right of scientists to do embryonic stem cells and experiment with human clonation, etc.)
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Old November 19th, 2012, 11:48 PM   #43
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1. Christian Nationalist
2. Monarchist
3. Elitist
4. Socialist-Corporatist
5. Against all forms of bourgeois "democracy" and parliamentarism
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Old November 21st, 2012, 09:40 AM   #44

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1. Socialist of the old variety: I deeply oppose PC, Diversity as policy and the rest. Just the belief that capitalism and capitalists are untrustworthy and that their habits destructive and the power they wield very disproportionate .

2. Minimal Government: which is what Socialism aims for. Morality and thought should supersede law. When you do something morally wrong, you answer to yourself. When you do something legally wrong, you have to get caught in order to face retribution. Law should be the last resort if morality is absent. People must be taught to think, not react.

3. Anti monarchist, anti globalisation, anti nationalism, anti-war.

4. An end to the notion that money equals status.

5. I am an atheist who couldn't care less what others believe so long as they leave me alone.
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Old November 21st, 2012, 10:17 AM   #45

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1. Slightly left of center independent who despises the machinations of all political parties. I favor direct democracy for which I believe the technology exists to implement referendum based people's control of their government.

2. I do not allow people who are not elected to have input in any aspect of my life, other than my wife and those who I served under as sworn by my oath.

3. Pro immigration. For whatever my country's problems are, it is a source of great pride for me that people have, and still do, risk death to live here with me.

4. Pro choice, but do not like abortion (I personally know of no one on either side who does). Pro gun ownership, but favor local controls.

5. Religion has no place in governing of the people, yet deserves the protection of the people from being governed. I am an atheist who finds the attempts to attack me as such by believers as being more an exercise in suppressing their own doubts. Leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone.
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Old November 21st, 2012, 04:46 PM   #46

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Anti guns
limited socialism
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Anti capitalism
Owenist (I made this one up)
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 05:07 AM   #47

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Center-right political conservative - Kind of a mixture of between Hamilton and Washington federalism and Jefferson and Lincoln Republicanism. A duality in my personal domestic philosophy, a contradiction i suppose? Foreign policy wise, as they did then, so do i now: I feel this country is closest to both the UK and France in most manners and respect.

Secular -A separation of church and state is a must for stability of any nation.

Free market capitalism - Not the materialist kind, but the one that brings more prosperity to the most people possible over an extended period of time.

Isolationist - Let's face, i am sick of my country being the "Worlds policeman". Always hating and griping when they're there and d**ning them when they're not.

Libertarian - A healthy respect for the private life of the individual citizen with the least amount of government interference as possible in how we go about our daily affairs.
this describes me to a T especially being an isolationist. our government needs to help americans first..
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 04:42 PM   #48

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Conservative: Government definitely has it's place, but it's relatively small. Plus, most of the stuff that comes with the title.

Capitalist: I believe that not only does socialism not work in reality, but that it is not even an ideal that should be aspired to. Capitalism is a factor that created the modern world.

American: I believe we have the greatest nation in history. That does not give us the right to flaunt it in other nations, but it means we should set an example for others. On that note, we should also protect our interests and the interests of our allies above all else, and under no circumstances should we ever surrender our sovereignty to the UN or other state that does not have our interests primary.

Constitution: The Constitution holds the founding principles of the USA, and it should be respected. It holds the ideas of Federalism, separation of powers, and the bill of rights. Although these ideas seem to have gone by the wayside, I believe they are of prime importance.

Interventionist+anti-appeasement: I believe that Americans should come first, but those citizens are best served when America protects there interests abroad. We were weakest when our nation was insular. Pre-WW2 we were too caring about our own welfare to see the danger of Hitler and the axis. 9I know this is a oversimplification, but it is how I see it)
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 02:48 AM   #49
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Monarchist - The monarchy is a valuable part of society and should be kept.

Fiscally moderate - The government should leave well enough alone with regards to private business, not spend more than it gains in revenue, but nationalize certain services such as water and possibly energy. Resources crucial to life [water] should not be in the hands of private individuals.

Socially liberal - Live you life how you want, as long as it does not impact upon others. Things like gay marriage and abortion should be personal choice, as it is nothing to do with me.

Personal security - At the end of the day we all live in the same society together, and we are all human beings, and so the government should provide free healthcare and limited benefits. Everyone should be entitled to free healthcare, but benefits are purely a safety net to prevent starvation/living on the streets and should not be a way of life.

British (possibly uniculturalist?) - I love this island nation, and am proud of it (usually.) While it has it's flaws it is still a wonderful place. Immigration should be limited to those who want to come here to be part of the British culture and way of life, not just because we pay more benefits.


I could probably refine and expand those but it makes a fair starting point I believe. Generally comes down to freedom to live how you want but remembering that we do have to live together and rely upon each other sometimes.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 02:56 AM   #50
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