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Pavel November 3rd, 2012 02:10 PM

The suicide from poverty
 
What do you think, if poverty forces a man to kill himself, is it justifiable to give him money?

dagul November 3rd, 2012 02:18 PM

In the first place the question is how did that person got impoverished?

As a society the people must be responsible with each other, and theoretically it should be the case. However, the real life shows that one takes advantage of the other in order to create a better life for ones self, which of course is not true all the time because there are organizations that really care for the homeless and the people who don't find food for themselves.

So, going back to the issue that's raised by the OP, there is no reason for giving a person money, rather he/she must be taught how to live.

čarević November 3rd, 2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pavel (Post 1246697)
What do you think, if poverty forces a man to kill himself, is it justifiable to give him money?

Giving gross money to the poor will not solve their problems, what have to be done is to give them a stable, decent, dignified job. And that they learn to administrate, save the money.

Nothing will change in their situation If money bonuses are offered and delivered upon them.

Pacific_Victory November 3rd, 2012 02:26 PM

How can you give him money if he killed himself O_o?

dagul November 3rd, 2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacific_Victory (Post 1246719)
How can you give him money if he killed himself O_o?

for casket and funeral expenses.

Pacific_Victory November 3rd, 2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dagul (Post 1246723)
for casket and funeral expenses.

If he is that poor his family should sell the body to science or medicine so that there are no funerary costs and they may get a little money out of the deal. This practice of burying people in the ground is expensive and takes up valuable space. We have too many graveyards as it is.

Anyhow, most governments in the West right now cant even afford the expenses and debts they already have, let alone adding free burials for the poor. Do you know how many people die a year and how expensive funerals are?

dagul November 3rd, 2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacific_Victory (Post 1246726)
If he is that poor his family should sell the body to science or medicine so that there are no funerary costs and they may get a little money out of the deal. This practice of burying people in the ground is expensive and takes up valuable space. We have too many graveyards as it is.

Anyhow, most governments in the West right now cant even afford the expenses and debts they already have, let alone adding free burials for the poor. Do you know how many people die a year and how expensive funerals are?

The act of giving dignity to human life reaches until one is buried on the ground. It is known also as respect with a fellow human.

Pacific_Victory November 3rd, 2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dagul (Post 1246739)
The act of giving dignity to human life reaches until one is buried on the ground. It is known also as respect with a fellow human.

Personally I think burying bodies is silly, but I respect people's right to do it. I should NOT have to pay for it as a taxpayer though.

dagul November 3rd, 2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacific_Victory (Post 1246746)
Personally I think burying bodies is silly, but I respect people's right to do it. I should NOT have to pay for it as a taxpayer though.

Well, cremation and selling of the body for purposes of learning how it works the way medical students examine them are practical ways of dealing with dead human body, but, for those who like to follow the traditions, it is a choice and the act of giving respect over it by a tax payer is also a choice.

Jake10 November 8th, 2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pavel (Post 1246697)
What do you think, if poverty forces a man to kill himself, is it justifiable to give him money?

Are we talking about charity to prevent the suicide? When it comes to charity, it is up to the people giving. If, on the other hand, we're talking about welfare, then it is up to the state. I do believe society and governments have a duty to prevent this, but it also comes down to resources and management of welfare.


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