The suicide from poverty - Historum

Pavel · November 3rd, 2012, 01:10 PM

What do you think, if poverty forces a man to kill himself, is it justifiable to give him money?

**dagul** · November 3rd, 2012, 01:18 PM

In the first place the question is how did that person got impoverished?

As a society the people must be responsible with each other, and theoretically it should be the case. However, the real life shows that one takes advantage of the other in order to create a better life for ones self, which of course is not true all the time because there are organizations that really care for the homeless and the people who don't find food for themselves.

So, going back to the issue that's raised by the OP, there is no reason for giving a person money, rather he/she must be taught how to live.

čarević · November 3rd, 2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pavel

What do you think, if poverty forces a man to kill himself, is it justifiable to give him money?

Giving gross money to the poor will not solve their problems, what have to be done is to give them a stable, decent, dignified job. And that they learn to administrate, save the money.

Nothing will change in their situation If money bonuses are offered and delivered upon them.

**Pacific_Victory** · November 3rd, 2012, 01:26 PM

How can you give him money if he killed himself O_o?

**dagul** · November 3rd, 2012, 01:28 PM

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How can you give him money if he killed himself O_o?

for casket and funeral expenses.

**Pacific_Victory** · November 3rd, 2012, 01:31 PM

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for casket and funeral expenses.

If he is that poor his family should sell the body to science or medicine so that there are no funerary costs and they may get a little money out of the deal. This practice of burying people in the ground is expensive and takes up valuable space. We have too many graveyards as it is.

Anyhow, most governments in the West right now cant even afford the expenses and debts they already have, let alone adding free burials for the poor. Do you know how many people die a year and how expensive funerals are?

**dagul** · November 3rd, 2012, 01:36 PM

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If he is that poor his family should sell the body to science or medicine so that there are no funerary costs and they may get a little money out of the deal. This practice of burying people in the ground is expensive and takes up valuable space. We have too many graveyards as it is.

Anyhow, most governments in the West right now cant even afford the expenses and debts they already have, let alone adding free burials for the poor. Do you know how many people die a year and how expensive funerals are?

The act of giving dignity to human life reaches until one is buried on the ground. It is known also as respect with a fellow human.

**Pacific_Victory** · November 3rd, 2012, 01:41 PM

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The act of giving dignity to human life reaches until one is buried on the ground. It is known also as respect with a fellow human.

Personally I think burying bodies is silly, but I respect people's right to do it. I should NOT have to pay for it as a taxpayer though.

**dagul** · November 3rd, 2012, 01:47 PM

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Personally I think burying bodies is silly, but I respect people's right to do it. I should NOT have to pay for it as a taxpayer though.

Well, cremation and selling of the body for purposes of learning how it works the way medical students examine them are practical ways of dealing with dead human body, but, for those who like to follow the traditions, it is a choice and the act of giving respect over it by a tax payer is also a choice.

**Jake10** · November 8th, 2012, 05:13 PM

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What do you think, if poverty forces a man to kill himself, is it justifiable to give him money?

Are we talking about charity to prevent the suicide? When it comes to charity, it is up to the people giving. If, on the other hand, we're talking about welfare, then it is up to the state. I do believe society and governments have a duty to prevent this, but it also comes down to resources and management of welfare.