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Old November 11th, 2012, 03:29 AM   #1

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From the earliest parts of our lives, we are confronted with dissapointment and negatives. we have one crack at life, a one way ticket with no re-run. Most people are at some stage are confronted with failure, heartbreak, ill fortune, death of loved ones and all of the other traumatic events that can occurr. How we deal with this is variable and depends on the make-up of the individual.

Iam approaching my latter years and at times and in quiet moments, I reflect on past events and consider that I could have handled something better, or that I could have made a better descision. That I could have handled a relationship better etc. Sometimes I think that I have not fulfilled my life and I get bitter when I consider "well, you had your opportunities, its too late now".

At the end of this, one thing stands out, being human and being human is to make mistakes. one thing is clear, I was brought up with a built in ability to cope with life, but others are not so fortunate. Adverse events destroy them and they never get over things.

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Old November 11th, 2012, 03:33 AM   #2

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Old November 11th, 2012, 03:40 AM   #3

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The memories of a man in his old age are the deeds of a man in his prime............. Pink Floyd

You play your hand as best you can, i think we all have regrets and ponder on mistakes we have made. But life is a one shot deal, there are no rewinds, only second chances for some and regret for others,
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The memories of a man in his old age are the deeds of a man in his prime............. Pink Floyd

You play your hand as best you can, i think we all have regrets and ponder on mistakes we have made. But life is a one shot deal, there are no rewinds, only second chances for some and regret for others,
Very well put Funakison, right on the nail!!
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From the earliest parts of our lives, we are confronted with dissapointment and negatives. we have one crack at life, a one way ticket with no re-run. Most people are at some stage are confronted with failure, heartbreak, ill fortune, death of loved ones and all of the other traumatic events that can occurr. How we deal with this is variable and depends on the make-up of the individual.

Iam approaching my latter years and at times and in quiet moments, I reflect on past events and consider that I could have handled something better, or that I could have made a better descision. That I could have handled a relationship better etc. Sometimes I think that I have not fulfilled my life and I get bitter when I consider "well, you had your opportunities, its too late now".

At the end of this, one thing stands out, being human and being human is to make mistakes. one thing is clear, I was brought up with a built in ability to cope with life, but others are not so fortunate. Adverse events destroy them and they never get over things.

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I am very self punishing as a person, when I make mistakes I beat myself up (figure of speech) about it and call myself an idiot. There are many things which go over my head what other people would worry about, but this is only because some very dire things have happened to me and it is therefore the dire things that make me worry. So, other things do not seem so bad. I think when really bad stuff happens, you kind of get over all the little unnecessary things that many would dwell over. Some people can walk through life and even the big things that happen does not make them flinch, I envy such people.

There are things which have devastated me in my life but the ones I cannot get over are the ones that didn't happen naturally but the ones where I messed up, made the wrong decision, allowed myself to be treated badly or manipulated. I can't seem to forgive myself for letting other people and circumstances affect my decisions in life. I have never seemed to be able to stand up and just make a decision through my own strength of will. I've said this before on another topic but I feel this makes me a very weak person. I wish I was stronger and that I wasn't such a door mat all my life.

I generally do not have regrets for missed opportunities in my life, but get upset at the parts of my life what I messed up. I do not miss what I never had, but what I did have or could of had if I didn't mess up so much.
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That's why try not to hesitate in getting the things I want and also why I've given up the monotony of office work and the prospect of riches to do things I enjoy instead. Time is worth far more than money, and it's better to spend time doing the things which bring you pleasure, imho.

Also making the most of my opportunities with people I fancy/like. Life is short, but youth is even shorter. I'm 28 now and having a bit of a quarter life crisis as the years slip by without me even noticing.
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Old November 12th, 2012, 10:50 AM   #7

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Life is a one shoot thing like funakison as said
I carrie with me that the life must belived
we make mistakes and sometimes not
regreting about the past choices dont change nothing
and worrying about the past you may lose the present
life goes on,
do not blame yourself too much and self pity dont help
they are all part of the jorney in this world,
the only way is raising your head and keep on living\fighting

a old native saying "if you breathe, you have yet not been defeated "
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Does anyone feel like their obsession with history is also something to do with the realisation of their own mortality? Looking back on the past we can see the lives of countless people just like us, each with their own hopes, dreams and fears. When we imagine them we can reach back through time and touch them, although we can never know them, we can see their faces smiling down on us over the centuries. We can recreate a lost world and breathe life back into their words. It's the closest we can get to communicating with ghosts.


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"I walked upon the terrace before my window and enjoyed the beauty of the night; the moon shone bright, which added to the lulling sound of the waves and filled me with every pleasing and melancholy recollection. Tho' separated by land and sea from some objects too dearly cherished, yet I was tranquil. Prudence satisfied me that all was for the best."
-Lady Webster, 1793


And this was written roughly 200 years ago, of course she didn't know what was coming next, the height of the Terror in France, Napoleon, the Industrial Revolution, World War 1 and 2. It's just a brief moment caught in the past of a girl of 22 caught in her own thoughts on a warm summer night. Yet we can read them today as if they were written only minutes ago.

Is it just me who sees things this way or am I a hopeless romantic?

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Does anyone feel like their obsession with history is also something to do with the realisation of their own mortality? Looking back on the past we can see the lives of countless people just like us, each with their own hopes, dreams and fears. When we imagine them we can reach back through time and touch them, although we can never know them, we can still create a lost world and breathe life back into their words. It's the closest we can get to communicating with ghosts.


"I walked upon the terrace before my window and enjoyed the beauty of the night; the moon shone bright, which added to the lulling sound of the waves and filled me with every pleasing and melancholy recollection. Tho' separated by land and sea from some objects too dearly cherished, yet I was tranquil. Prudence satisfied me that all was for the best."

-Lady Webster, 1793


And this was written roughly 200 years ago, of course she didn't know what was coming next, the height of the Terror in France, Napoleon, the Industrial Revolution, World War 1 and 2. It's just a brief moment caught in the past of a girl of 22 caught in her own thoughts on a warm summer night. Yet we can read them today as if they were written only minutes ago.

Is it just me who sees things this way or am I a hopeless romantic?
I feel the same way. It is for this reason that I have become an avid collector or quotes. Nothing seems to make history more real and close than the words of someone who was living it.

I often wonder what I will leave behind when I'm gone. How I will be remembered and for how long. How choices I make will affect my legacy.

There is a quote from the movie Troy that I've always been fond of, where Achilles' mother speaks with him while he is deciding whether to go to Troy with the Greek army or not.

"If you stay in Larisa......you will find peace.
You will find a wonderful woman.
You will have sons and daughters,and they will have children. And they will love you.
When you are gone,they will remember you.
But when your children are dead and their children after them...
...your name will be lost.

If you go to Troy......glory will be yours.
They will write stories about your
victories for thousands of years.
The world will remember your name.
But if you go to Troy......you will never come home.

For your glory walks hand in hand with your doom.
And I shall never see you again."
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I am very self punishing as a person, when I make mistakes I beat myself up (figure of speech) about it and call myself an idiot. There are many things which go over my head what other people would worry about, but this is only because some very dire things have happened to me and it is therefore the dire things that make me worry. So, other things do not seem so bad. I think when really bad stuff happens, you kind of get over all the little unnecessary things that many would dwell over. Some people can walk through life and even the big things that happen does not make them flinch, I envy such people.

There are things which have devastated me in my life but the ones I cannot get over are the ones that didn't happen naturally but the ones where I messed up, made the wrong decision, allowed myself to be treated badly or manipulated. I can't seem to forgive myself for letting other people and circumstances affect my decisions in life. I have never seemed to be able to stand up and just make a decision through my own strength of will. I've said this before on another topic but I feel this makes me a very weak person. I wish I was stronger and that I wasn't such a door mat all my life.

I generally do not have regrets for missed opportunities in my life, but get upset at the parts of my life what I messed up. I do not miss what I never had, but what I did have or could of had if I didn't mess up so much.
Brisieis you are not weak, being upset is normal for everyone
this is the humanity, we had sentiments opinions that sometimes even disliking them we have this is not wrong not a problem this is only you, me everyone.
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