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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:03 AM   #101
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Wrong, racism means treating another race differently from another race.
If you treat an Asian man better than a white man then that's racism.

If I were to say Asians are better drivers than Caucasians then that would be racist. Even tough I don't say anything bad about the Asian people.
I even call them superior to me.

exclamation marks do not add to an argument, just so you know.
I'm not TREATING them differently....and if the Asians score higher on tests, that's a fact that they are smarter on those tests....if the Asians have less driving accidents, they are better drivers..I can state that this or that race does poorly in tests if the facts confirm that...it's how I TREATthose races that would determine if I was racist...
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:09 AM   #102
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I am 5”7 I am attracted to tall, intelligent average looking men no matter the race (healthy outlook ) on the other hand I find short men to be attractive as well however they are not my primary preference.

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I dislike Asians because they are short in statue.

My belief here is clearly wrong……short people exist in every culture the same as fat, skinny, unattractive, ignorant etc. When we stigmatize a race then our logic is messed up. In every race there are beautiful women and handsome men. To say otherwise is based on a prejudice attitude a leading factor for racism.
Americans are taller[average/in general] than Asians
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Asia has 30% of the world's land area and 60% of the world's population.

Are "Asians" are a homogenous "race"?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #104

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Asia has 30% of the world's land area and 60% of the world's population.

Are "Asians" are a homogenous "race"?
"Asians" consist of Caucasian race related Russians, Turks, Armenians, Kazakstanis, Turkmenistanis, Indians, Pakistanis, Afghans, etc. There are also the many Caucasian-Semitic peoples of the Middle East. And although there are several distinctly pure Mongoloid related groups in Asia, such as the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese and Mongols; there are also mixed blends of several races.
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I'm not TREATING them differently....and if the Asians score higher on tests, that's a fact that they are smarter on those tests....if the Asians have less driving accidents, they are better drivers..I can state that this or that race does poorly in tests if the facts confirm that...it's how I TREATthose races that would determine if I was racist...
nonsense! in holland there are more foreigners involved in crime, does that allow me to say that people from the middle east are more often criminals?
of course not, there are many more factors that come in to play.
For ''race'' it's another thing, you are either Asian or you are not.
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I am a black man and black woman are the only women for me. My ego won't allow me to be with anything else. I don't care how goodlooking or smart some of the women of the other races are . I am sorry but if I can see blue veins running through your skin or if you have white skin and there are spots of black or brown on your skin. I don't find to attractive at all.
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Wrong, racism means treating another race differently from another race.
If you treat an Asian man better than a white man then that's racism.

If I were to say Asians are better drivers than Caucasians then that would be racist. Even tough I don't say anything bad about the Asian people.
I even call them superior to me.

exclamation marks do not add to an argument, just so you know.
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Wrong, racism means treating another race differently from another race.
If you treat an Asian man better than a white man then that's racism.
Doesn't the reason for the preferrential treatment matter? Treating a black man better than a white man is not necessarily racism. For example, the black man starts at point guard and the white man does not. This is treating the black man better than the white man since one race starts at point guard but the other does not and it is treating the two races differently, one race starts, the other race does not start, but this alone is not racism.
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Doesn't the reason for the preferrential treatment matter? Treating a black man better than a white man is not necessarily racism. For example, the black man starts at point guard and the white man does not. This is treating the black man better than the white man since one race starts at point guard but the other does not and it is treating the two races differently, one race starts, the other race does not start, but this alone is not racism.
Depends. Is the black man because he is black, or because he is a better player in that position?
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nonsense! in holland there are more foreigners involved in crime, does that allow me to say that people from the middle east are more often criminals?
of course not, there are many more factors that come in to play.
For ''race'' it's another thing, you are either Asian or you are not.
What if only one of your parents is from Asia?
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Depends. Is the black man because he is black, or because he is a better player in that position?
Exactly my point! The reason for treating them differently is important, something Bartie's argument ignores, to the detriment of his argument. The mere fact they are treated differently is not racism per se, as Bartie contends.
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