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View Poll Results: Is military intervention sometimes justified?
No, never. Basically. 2 20.00%
Yes, it is. The consequences of not intervening are generally greater. 8 80.00%
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Old November 13th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #11
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The question speaks well for itself. I'm primarilly thinking of humanitarian grounds.

Choose the best option. It's never easy.
The question is easy, it simply couldn't be any more subjective and morally relativistic.

At the risk of overstating the obvious, it entirely depends on the context and especially on the side of the beholder (i.e. invader or invaded)

Ergo, if the question speaks for itself, then the options of the poll simply couldn't be any more irrelevant; i.e. both context and side are entirely ignored.

And of course, the non-fallacious application of Goodwin's Law is simply unavoidable here...
For all the posters who answered "yes" in this nice poll above, guess they were specifically thinking about any of the myriad nice military interventions of Herr Hitler & co.
Especially against their own homeland, one may guess.

For all the posters who answered "no", it's extremele hard to find any example of any bona fide patriots who may have ever stated the opposite on their own homeland.
Maybe Mr. Benedict Arnold... ???


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Old November 13th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #12

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This isn't a question that can be answered generally you have to look at each case individually. It's always a hard decision to make no doubt.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 04:25 PM   #13

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Since you only included polar opposites, then I abstain from voting. I would propose a third option-Sometimes the lesser of two evils.
This.

Also, I can recall at least two fairly recent occasions when people begged for foreign military intervention. The East Timorese asked for Australian military intervention to neutralise the Indonesian backed militias after the independence referendum of 1999, and anti Ghaddafi Libyans asked for NATO assistance during the revolution of 2011. Should these requests have been ignored?
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Old November 13th, 2012, 07:47 PM   #14

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This poll is completely ridiculous. The answer is complicated yet you want a binary response.
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If it's about the overthrowing of dictatorship, so definitely yes.
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Military intervention can be justified only in case of genocide but we haven't seen Rwanda intervened or when Mugabe was killing white farmers. Hence we see in Russian media that Western Ukrainian nazis are going to decimate Eastern Russian speaking lands. We are being prepared.

It depends on for whom military intervention is good. Depends on the motives like to secure cheap oil and prop up an ailing currency or to provide peace keeping services, to win political support at home or to protect a persecuted minority abroad, to overthrow a non sympathetic government or to depose a megalomaniac despot, I mean - I ask you why troops in Iraq and not Burma, why protect South Korea and Taiwan but not Tibet, its the motives that need scrutiny. : )
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Why not evaluate it on a case-by-case basis, rather than trying to make a blanket statement?
Same here.
Cases help you to frame a clear answer... How could you tell so radically if it is good or not good?
Military intervention, according to international law, is not justified. And yet, all of our nations own standing armies to defend themselves. (Kant still is shaking his head on that...)
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Old May 15th, 2014, 01:43 PM   #18
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It's bad much more often than it's good. In my opinion the only reason it should ever happen, without the invitation of the government in question, is to prevent genocide.
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If it's about the overthrowing of dictatorship, so definitely yes.
That would still require case by case analysis. A dictatorship isn't inherently inferior and democracies that came as a result of military intervention could also be inferior than the dictatorship that was toppled.
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Since you only included polar opposites, then I abstain from voting. I would propose a third option-Sometimes the lesser of two evils.
Agreed, when no circumstances or specifications are given this question is far to simplistic and can't be answered correctly without writing a 10 part volume of books on the subject
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