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View Poll Results: Should there be separation of church and state?
Yes 50 89.29%
No 2 3.57%
Neither 4 7.14%
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Old November 18th, 2012, 03:37 PM   #11

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Yes and no.
Why the partial no?
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Old November 18th, 2012, 03:41 PM   #12
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Is this even a question? Of course it should.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 03:47 PM   #13

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Why the partial no?
Because whether we like it or not, the state cannot be indifferent to the church or to religion. The state is dependent upon religious presuppositions, even if it takes the stance of religious neutrality. If you have a state where the vast majority of its citizen profess a certain religious viewpoint, a government can't be indifferent towards that and will have to adapt its policies according to those sensibilities. Even in supposedly secularist countries, their religious inheritance still has a considerable impact on the political culture.

So even if formally church and state are separate, informally they're still deeply connected on many levels.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 03:48 PM   #14

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100% absolutely yes.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #15

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I voted "neither" because I don't know what that means, but it sounds deep anyway.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 07:14 PM   #16

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In some countries, any and all churches get state support. So, those countries have state religion, but not a state religion. Apparently, the thought is that religion as such is a good thing in and of itself regardless of which one it is. So, I guess that's not separation of Church and State, strictly speaking.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 10:40 PM   #17

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This is one of those moments I can simply say yes to increase my post count isn't it?
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Old November 18th, 2012, 10:49 PM   #18

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Yes, it's fundamental to a free society.
^^ This.

The secular state is arguably the Enlightenment's greatest gift to human civilisation. Church and state must remain separate.
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This is one of those moments I can simply say yes to increase my post count isn't it?
That's why I made it
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Old November 19th, 2012, 04:17 PM   #20

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Yes, a separation between religion and state would be an ideal.

I doubt tht it can happen though. Too many people think that it is their "god-given" right to impose their relgious values on others. Case in point, the last US election and its appeals to the religious majority to put evangelical and ultra-conservative values into the forefront of the political agenda.
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