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November 21st, 2012, 12:23 PM
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#1 | | Historian
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,393 | Trinity, God and individualism
Ever wondered how the Trinity came about to be so holy?
Well, look at it, draw it yourself:
It is the most simple figure you can ever imagine, and forms the basis of everything.
If you just have a dot, you don't know where it is, because you can't relate it to anything. It has no shape, no length and nothing to be compared to anything. The question is, does it even exist on its own? No, it doesn't because things only exists when they relate to others.
So if we have a Unity, we have at least two dots. They form the length, but it has no shape. To get a shape, to actually be able to see it, we need the third dot.
I am convinced that is how the Trinity in Christianity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) came into being.
In other words, God exists only because of these borders made by dots, which doesn't even exist as such. The Holy Spirit isn't God, nor is the Son itself God, nor is the Father the God. It is the very Trinity as a whole which makes up God.
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Ever looked at how radioactivity radiates from the atoms, drawed onto a graph?
Each dot, looked at individually says NOTHING about ANYTHING.
Looking at two or three says they are randomly distributed on the graph.
But looking at ALL of them TOGETHER they make up a more and more clear pattern of a diagonal line.
- which leads me to the next conclusion: We as human beings could be presented as these dots, either as in the example of the Trinity or as the graph of radiation.
We are part of a larger, greater purpose.Yet we have something in common. What we have in common, may only make up less then 2 percent of the totality. But these less-than-two-percent-in-common is what defines our purpose. That is what is going to survive for eternity. It may even shrink to less than 0.00001 percent, but in the end, when the world has faced armageddon and the appocalypse, there is still the core units of the universe, which exists. It exists as triangular shapes made by dots which in themselves are non-existing, but the shape or the triangle exists. The Trinity exists. God exists!
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November 21st, 2012, 12:37 PM
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#2 | | Kayıkçı Efe
Joined: Jul 2009 From: Anatolia Posts: 10,594 |
What I understand is, three dimension is your inspiration for trinity.
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November 21st, 2012, 12:42 PM
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#3 | | Spiritual Ronin
Joined: Aug 2009 From: Minnesnowta Posts: 18,993 |
I assert that the godhead must be a Quatrain. Three dimensions are meaningless without time, four dimensions are necessary!
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November 21st, 2012, 12:48 PM
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#4 | | Spiritual Ronin
Joined: Aug 2009 From: Minnesnowta Posts: 18,993 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Philosopher Ever wondered how the Trinity came about to be so holy? | Yes. My conclusion is that the church needed to reconcile scriptures where Jesus refers to god as a distinct entity with monotheism.
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November 21st, 2012, 01:01 PM
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#5 | | This title is too lo
Joined: Apr 2010 From: T'Republic of Yorkshire Posts: 16,014 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Efendi What I understand is, three dimension is your inspiration for trinity. | Except that three dots makes up a triangle, which is a two dimensional shape, not a three dimensional one.
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November 21st, 2012, 01:07 PM
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#6 | | Historian
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,393 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasta Yes. My conclusion is that the church needed to reconcile scriptures where Jesus refers to god as a distinct entity with monotheism. | I know about the compromise made in the roman empire. I just thought i wanted to present my own theory.
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November 21st, 2012, 01:23 PM
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#7 | | God of Valles Marinas
Joined: Sep 2012 From: Valles Marinas Posts: 4,278 |
a very interesting theory
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November 21st, 2012, 05:43 PM
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#8 | | Archivist
Joined: Nov 2012 From: USA Posts: 153 | How about a continuation of the Egyptian trinity: Isis—Osiris—Horus keeping in line with ancient concepts of the triune goddess: Maiden—Mother—Crone sticking with the idea that three is a sacred number Nornes, Fates, Creator—Preserver—Destroyer in Hindu tradition, Goddess—God—Son=Savior triune is common too in the Ancient NE | | |
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November 21st, 2012, 06:05 PM
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#9 | | Archivist
Joined: Oct 2012 From: The Mile High City Posts: 191 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkroad How about a continuation of the Egyptian trinity: Isis—Osiris—Horus keeping in line with ancient concepts of the triune goddess: Maiden—Mother—Crone sticking with the idea that three is a sacred number Nornes, Fates, Creator—Preserver—Destroyer in Hindu tradition, Goddess—God—Son=Savior triune is common too in the Ancient NE | Agreed | | |
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November 21st, 2012, 07:14 PM
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#10 | | What we have, we hold
Joined: Mar 2011 From: 6th Century Constantinople Posts: 3,334 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkroad How about a continuation of the Egyptian trinity: Isis—Osiris—Horus | Isis, Osiris and Horus were three different deities, not a trinity. Quote: | keeping in line with ancient concepts of the triune goddess: Maiden—Mother—Crone | The concept of 'mother/maiden/crone' was invented by Robert Graves in the 20th Century. It is not a trinity, and it did not exist in antiquity. There is no 'ancient concept of the triune goddess.' There is nothing remotely ancient about it. Quote: sticking with the idea that three is a sacred number Nornes, Fates, Creator—Preserver—Destroyer in Hindu tradition | That goes straight into the 'so what?' basket. Quote: | Goddess—God—Son=Savior triune is common too in the Ancient NE | No, it is not.
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