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Old November 24th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #41

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I was under the impression that most of the upper crust in Britain related to or descended from current or formal royalty of some sort.
If the aristocracy and landed gentry are regarded as the 'upper crust', most don't have royal connections and very few are descended from members of the royal family. It has to be remembered (a) that has not been a continuous royal succession within England, but recent dynasties have been of Scottish and German origin, (b) until the last century, members of royal families only married members of other royal families on the whole, (c) that noble families in England tend either to be very long-established in specific regions of the country, or to be descended from people who have ascended in the world since the 17th Century (the aristocracy in Britain does not form a closed caste, which is one the main reasons why it has survived better than its Continental equivalents), so that in either case, one wouldn't expect to find many royal connections.
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If the aristocracy and landed gentry are regarded as the 'upper crust', most don't have royal connections and very few are descended from members of the royal family. It has to be remembered (a) that has not been a continuous royal succession within England, but recent dynasties have been of Scottish and German origin, (b) until the last century, members of royal families only married members of other royal families on the whole, (c) that noble families in England tend either to be very long-established in specific regions of the country, or to be descended from people who have ascended in the world since the 17th Century (the aristocracy in Britain does not form a closed caste, which is one the main reasons why it has survived better than its Continental equivalents), so that in either case, one wouldn't expect to find many royal connections.
Thanks for clearing that up
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BoJo rocks, I almost ran him over on his bike in Islington, wouldn't have been too good to run over the Mayor. I hope he runs for PM as he'd have my vote.

I'm not sure if he got a first at Cambridge, but he is very affable and has style, which is more than most politicians have. I still haven't forgiven them for the expenses scandal and buying duck islands whilst our soldiers went to war with inadequate kit.
Boris was a Kings scholar at Eton an a Brackenbury (Classics) scholar at Balliol--that means fairly big brains.
He graduated from Balliol College with a 2:1. and was President of the Oxford Union.
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