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Old November 28th, 2012, 01:15 PM   #21

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Once again, that thread relates to all animals cruelly treated by humans for them to consume - cows, fish, deer, pigs, etc - not just chickens. They just happened to feature prominently in that short video clip.
"the chicken one" was just a way to quickly refer to it
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Old November 28th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #22

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The only criterion by which I distinguish all of those animals is tastiness.
That's just being flippant.
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That's just being flippant.
No, it isn't. As far as I'm concerned, it is morally equivalent to kill a cow or a chicken.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 01:29 PM   #24

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But you don't address their treatment, how they are factory-farmed, often cruelly slaughtered, etc.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 01:30 PM   #25

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No, it isn't. As far as I'm concerned, it is morally equivalent to kill a cow or a chicken.
That would depend, if you kill a cow instead of the chicken just for your own consumption with no way of preserving the meat so most would spoil, thats wrong.
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Situation A: An old man, ill and close to death, living alone with no friends/family/human relations. He doesn't work nor does anything meaningful, he just survives in his last years of life.

Situation B: A young mother, healthy and beautiful, with a happy family and lots of social relationships, who works as a cancer researcher.

Would killing A be comparable to killing B? Or would the murder of A be different from the murder of B (excluding, for the sake of the argument, the relevance of the motivations for the murders)? If so, why?

(The main point of this thread isn't murder btw, but i'll follow after i'll get some replies)
Murder of A or B is the same thing because both of them have the right to life. The status in the society is irrelevant when valuing human life because all people are equal in terms of the right to live.
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Murder of A or B is the same thing because both of them have the right to life. The status in the society is irrelevant when valuing human life because all people are equal in terms of the right to live.
but what would you do if in some disaster you had the power to rescue only one?
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but what would you do if in some disaster you had the power to rescue only one?
I'd rescue the one likely to give me the biggest reward.
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That would depend, if you kill a cow instead of the chicken just for your own consumption with no way of preserving the meat so most would spoil, thats wrong.
Let's assume that I am capable of consuming or otherwise making use of the meat before it spoils.

Even if I were not, I don't have a problem with it, if I particularly fancy steak. In which case, it's invite the friends around for a barbecue party.
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I'd rescue the one likely to give me the biggest reward.
so the rich are of more value than the poor?

or were you not thinking of reward in money terms?
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