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Old November 28th, 2012, 03:04 PM   #31

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Murder of A or B is the same thing because both of them have the right to life. The status in the society is irrelevant when valuing human life because all people are equal in terms of the right to live.
Is this true in any situation? What about the japanese invading the philippines during WWII, wouldn't be acceptable to kill them?
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Old November 28th, 2012, 03:05 PM   #32

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but what would you do if in some disaster you had the power to rescue only one?
Certainly, I shall rescue the person that I love the most, or, if I do not know them, it shall be the person who is nearest to me in terms of proximity and the one that I shall have the least in risk.
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Is this true in any situation? What about the japanese invading the philippines during WWII, wouldn't be acceptable to kill them?
Killing another person is always wrong, however, when it's done in self defense it is justifiable thus the killing of the Japanese invading the country was perfectly tenable.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 03:09 PM   #34

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Certainly, I shall rescue the person that I love the most, or, if I do not know them, it shall be the person who is nearest to me in terms of proximity and the one that I shall have the least in risk.
What if they are all equal and you have to decide between one?

(if you read the whole thread you'll see that i made that choice-- rightly or wrongly)
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so the rich are of more value than the poor?

or were you not thinking of reward in money terms?
Nope, I was thinking of the value and benefit to me, not their value as human beings. The question was what choice I would make if I could only save one, not which one was more deserving of being saved.
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Killing another person is always wrong, however, when it's done in self defense it is justifiable thus the killing of the Japanese invading the country was perfectly tenable.
But if it's always wrong you shouldn't make exceptions
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^Like what I'd stated, it shall be the person to whom the risk that I shall have shall be lesser, but in a circumstance where it shall be the same situation and there is only one person that I can get, for sure it shall be the woman because she still has a long way to go and children to attend with.
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But if it's always wrong you shouldn't make exception
It is not an exception, rather, it is a justification. They're two different things because the former contemplates of a situation where there is no wrong done, but the latter accepts of the fact that there is an execution of a wrongful act, only that it is rationalized.
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^Like what I'd stated, it shall be the person to whom the risk that I shall have shall be lesser, but in a circumstance where it shall be the same situation and there is only one person that I can get, for sure it shall be the woman because she still has a long way to go and children to attend with.
Isn't that making a judgement regarding the value of the life of the old man and of the woman, deciding that the woman is worth more?
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It is not an exception, rather, it is a justification. They're two different things because the former contemplates of a situation where there is no wrong done, but the latter accepts of the fact that there is an execution of a wrongful act, only that it is rationalized.
Are you saying that the ideal thing would be not kill them, just that we as mortals/sinners ( I know you're deeply catholic so I guess this is where you come from) are too weak to conform?
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