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View Poll Results: What is most important to you, in regards to human qualities?
Wealth and productivity 7 25.00%
Compassion, sympathy and niceness 21 75.00%
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Old December 12th, 2012, 02:25 PM   #11

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We humans share our ability to Sympathize and be Compassionate towards others, with non-human species of higher mammels.
I think these capacities are much more widespread amongst life than we appreciate, not just in humans and higher mammals.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 02:36 PM   #12

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What is important is our human trait that is only found in humans: Ability to reflect upon ourselves (reasoning).

I believe we should use that reasoning to favor the highest traits of life top-down.
I have no idea which are the highest traits of life in your book. However, one common thread in societies which place wealth at the top is a breaking up of the social fabric. Ultimately it kills the people.
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I think these capacities are much more widespread amongst life than we appreciate, not just in humans and higher mammals.
But nonetheless they are higher capacities than communication, competition and accumulation.
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The traits all seem to be a bit too vague for me. The second choice seemed to carry a sheen of passivity to me that I simply don't like. "He is nice." "She feels for you." "He makes for a sympathetic character." They all carry a hint of an empty head. I enjoy people who are active, and who are out doing 'things.' Sure, some of the things my friends and people I know aren't the nicest but, to me, a 'nice night in' is synonymous with the three symptoms of our happy times: boredom, anxiety and laziness. I’d much rather spend time with a productive, wealthy and eccentric playboy (or playgirl) before anyone else.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 02:55 PM   #15

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The only thing I'm thinking about while reading this thread was that welfare thread here a week or two ago. A lot of people stated people unwilling on welfare mattered less than people working, not on welfare.

It's safe to say those people would respond with "Compassion, sympathy and niceness" in this thread, but unknowingly vote for "Wealth and productivity" on the other.


So as for me I would obviously say compassion. But to go a bit further, I do indeed judge people by the size of their house or the car they drive. Typically I think the poorer guy is more realistic and down to earth and the richer guy thinks he's highly. But I don't feed on those judges nor react any different between them because I can never know at first glance, and sometimes, I was proven wrong.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #16

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Wealth and possessions mean nothing to me in the bragging department. I had first experienced when I was very young that my dad was on strike as a docker and we lived near London. We lived in a council house in a posh area and our family were the brunt of being called scum bags of society. My Dad and his friends rallied round and helped each other out. My dad after that made some money and we moved out of our council house and into a nice new area in Essex which was even more of a Tory strong hold. I hated it there and my mum proudly happy as she was keeping up with the Jones next door. She called stock broker belt and I could not understand why she liked living there. My dad was on a campaign to introduce a few old bangers in the front yard to impress the neighbors to annoy my mum. He soon made the place look down trodden by putting sheds up that looked an eye sore. It got the neighbours backs up and my parents had a visit from someone that would buy my dads land and as he had such a large plot they gave him a lot of dosh. They found somewhere where they were no next door neighbors. It did not stop my mother complaining about a nearby neighbor and the noise of his private helicopter.
Does this posh place made my mum any happier, I think not. I think it made her more out of tune with reality.
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Both are important to me. This is a material world so wealth is needed, and compassion is needed because of my humanity and belief in God.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #18

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Both are important to me. This is a material world so wealth is needed, and compassion is needed because of my humanity and belief in God.
Wealth and compassion are not mutually exclusive. I am by no means financially well off but I had enough to give a Xmas donation to the Salvation Army which will hopefully help someone during the festive period. If I was broke I could not have done it and therefore my sense of compassion would have been useless.
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Wealth and compassion are not mutually exclusive. I am by no means financially well off but I had enough to give a Xmas donation to the Salvation Army which will hopefully help someone during the festive period. If I was broke I could not have done it and therefore my sense of compassion would have been useless.
I fully agree.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #20

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From a Darwinian perspective empathy and compassion are essentially vital for the survival of the human species. As Human beings are social animals as nature had deemed us.Empathy and compassion are the enablers to allow for a reciprocal beneficial social relationships. It is through the power of that we had conquered the forces of nature attempting bring us of out existence. Human existence would be harsh and unenjoyable lacking empathy and compassion even possessing large sums of wealth.

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