franco

prison isnt just about punishment thou its thier to try reabilatate people

NullZone

All you need to do is kill enough people and their wouldn't be any crime at all.

It actually quite difficult to get through life without committing any crime so just extend the death penalty.

diddyriddick

As I've said elsewhere on this forum, I'd be all for it IF one could be 100% positive of guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt. The problem is that the burden of evidence only calls for guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. If we mistakenly jail somebody for an offense, and subsequently find them innocent, we can always reverse the sentence; obviously, that is not an option in capital crimes. I'm not prepared to execute even one potentially innocent person.

Additionally, I can't speak for other parts of the world, but here in the US, the death penalty is disproportionately applied to blacks for the same crime as whites.

The fact of the matter is that, however infrequently, innocents have been killed on the altar of retribution, not justice.

Just my two cents....

tjadams

Could you provide some data or raw figures, or even links, to support this? I'd enjoy reading the facts.

diddyriddick

Try these.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/raci...ions-1988-1994
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deat...es-who-decides

Scourge

A guy named Gerard John Schaefer was an American Police Officer and Serial Killer who went to prison. There is no exact number of the crimes he committed they only have proof of him committing two murders and kidnapping two others. He maintained his innocence his entire life until he died. It cost about 200,000 for the state of Florida to house this criminal every year. He also wasted millions of dollars of the state of Florida in order to have constant appeals cases and he sued any person on tv, in books or whatever from prison that called him a serial killer. Wasting more money of the state of Florida. He did this constantly until he was murdered about ten years ago. Now all of that money is flowing towards the state of Florida and not Gerard John Schaefer's pathetic existence.

franco

that is good point scourge i dont know if he was mentally ill or not but that is something that needs to be taken into account.

rickysymo

I guess that whatever reason that we may come up with is dependent on the fact that a lot of factors contribute to these. Such as religion and personal views. For me, I prefer lifetime imprisonment rather than death penalty. If I want someone to really suffer for the things he did wrongly, then making up for it in his whole life than having his life cut short and end all the drama at once.

Scourge

Yeah but Gerard John Schaefer's are not just small instances. There are many people in prisons through out the United States that manipulate state and federal court systems. They actually can continue to do harm and waste money. They like like bugs who eat plants from the inside out and destroy gardens. When they are finally removed and placed inside of a prison. They can still manipulate the outside world from inside and waste precious resources like food, clothing, medal, wood, millions of dollars etc.... The list goes on. So really I think for the benefit of humanity and the world it really would be a better place.

Nick

I'm largely against the death penalty but there are some people who are so evil they deserve to die (child abusers and the worst murderers)