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Old September 1st, 2014, 08:11 PM   #11

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Even Alexander lost his hate once Darius died.
... Except when taunted while drunk?

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That was not hate, that was swatting a fly, in Alexandrian terms.

Hate was dragging the body of a certain Eunuch behind his chariot.
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Old September 1st, 2014, 08:23 PM   #13

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Are you familiar with the story? In any case a deep, negative emotion lay at the base of his turning his lifelong buddy into a Macedonian saté.
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I think you have your causality backwards, perhaps we just hate people who make us unhappy?
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...perhaps we just hate people who make us unhappy?
Why do people make you unhappy?

People never make me unhappy, because I'm a pessimist. Only optimists get unhappy because their optimism is destroyed by reality.
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 11:41 AM   #16

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Hating some things is irreverent and will likely not effect your happiness. For example hating a specific type of food isn't going to make you an unhappy person.
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Hating some things is irreverent and will likely not effect your happiness. For example hating a specific type of food isn't going to make you an unhappy person.
We cannot stop ourselves hating what we don't want. It is natural, but more than that we hate why we're forced to have something we don't want, such as food.

Lets say if I'm a vegetarian, which I'm not but I want to be at some point in the future, and then I get a job selling and cooking non-vegetarian food, isn't that my own fault for hating that job? After all if I'm a vegetarian, why would I cook and sell non-vegetarian food? Where did compassion go?

In other words, its our own decisions that we hate, because our decisions that are based on short-sightedness and arrogance, often ends up making our life very unhappy..

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You paint in broad-brush strokes, abuse the royal we, make huuuge generalisations, then resort to semantics - i.e., Alexander 'swatting' rather than hating the man he killed - when things don't fit the rule. It's not philosophy or dispensing valuable life lessons: it's narrow-minded sophistry. Also:

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Hannibal's hate of Rome, destroyed Carthage
Hannibal wasn't the ruler of Carthage. This is a bit like saying Gen. David Petraeus caused the Iraq War.

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Hannibal wasn't the ruler of Carthage. This is a bit like saying Gen. David Petraeus caused the Iraq War.
Are you sure about that analogy?
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It does the job Hannibal had no choice as to whether or not the war continued. He was just a general.
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