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View Poll Results: What social status role do you seek in your community?
Top leadership 4 17.39%
Beta (influential to leadership) 3 13.04%
Middle 4 17.39%
Not very involved 1 4.35%
Separate from community in general 8 34.78%
Other 3 13.04%
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Old September 2nd, 2014, 04:48 PM   #1

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What role do you seek in your community in terms of social status?


This does not necessarily mean the role you currently have. It may or may not be, because some people seek to take a leadership role, others prefer a Beta role, some are happy to be in the large middle area, and a few don't particularly care. What is the role you seek in your social group?
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Frank Turner describes my life ambitions much better than me in the song Vital Signs:

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Well I’ll never get to grey hair
And I’ll never be in the black,
But I can tell stories that most can hardly dream
I want to spend my life funding travelling with temp work, retiring from that to become an author or lecturer in my early thirties. It's not that I don't want to be a leader, it's just that I'd rather have a life, as what's the point in leading others if you don't have anything to lead for yourself?

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Frank Turner describes my life ambitions much better than me in the song Vital Signs:

I want to spend my life funding travelling with temp work, retiring from that to become an author or lecturer in my early thirties. It's not that I don't want to be a leader, it's just that I'd rather have a life, as what's the point in leading others if you don't have anything to lead for yourself?

Sounds nice, but how does one become a lecturer without a fat wad of cash? Most people who go on to do Masters or Phds now can only do so now due to the bank of Mum and Dad, unless they're lucky enough to get a scholarship. Doing Thailand now seems to be a Middle Class cliche before uni.

... Which is partly why I put two fingers up to that lot and went to Texas I think I'll try Japan for my next trip but I honestly can't see how people travel long term without parental support.
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I think I'll try Japan for my next trip but I honestly can't see how people travel long term without parental support.
If you're willing to work while abroad, you can not only self-fund but actually increase your savings while there. As a westerner with (I assume) a university degree, there are plenty of countries in the world in which you could spend a year working a reasonably soft schedule with plenty of time tour and interact with the locals, and walk out with money in your pocket in the bargain.

As far as the question in the original post, beyond an occasional exchange of ideas I don't really feel the need to be too closely bound up in a broader community, and the drama of leadership sounds outright horrible.
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If you're willing to work while abroad, you can not only self-fund but actually increase your savings while there. As a westerner with (I assume) a university degree, there are plenty of countries in the world in which you could spend a year working a reasonably soft schedule with plenty of time tour and interact with the locals, and walk out with money in your pocket in the bargain.

As far as the question in the original post, beyond an occasional exchange of ideas I don't really feel the need to be too closely bound up in a broader community. The drama of leadership sounds horrible.
Fox, why don't you travel to Canada and live there for sometime. I could help you to settle down.
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Sounds nice, but how does one become a lecturer without a fat wad of cash? Most people who go on to do Masters or Phds now can only do so now due to the bank of Mum and Dad
That's exactly how it's being done now, sadly. My parents pay for rent via rental income they get from a flat, and I take all other expenses through gig income and temp work.

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... Which is partly why I put two fingers up to that lot and went to Texas I think I'll try Japan for my next trip but I honestly can't see how people travel long term without parental support
Mostly by being very, very cheap, and working while you go. As a bassist and a barman there aren't many places westerners go where I can't get some income, and if on the off-chance there is no work available, well, I don't mind walking - and eating gives you cramps

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So far, there is nobody seeking the top leadership positoin in the poll. Personally, I can do without all the pressure and demands.
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As a westerner with (I assume) a university degree, there are plenty of countries in the world in which you could spend a year working a reasonably soft schedule with plenty of time tour and interact with the locals, and walk out with money in your pocket in the bargain.
aren't there a lot of opportunities for native english speakers to teach english in japan/china/korea/taiwan?

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aren't there a lot of opportunities for native english speakers to teach english in japan/china/korea/taiwan?
Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Turkey, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and so on and so on. Almost anywhere you want to go you could probably find something. How lucrative that something will be will vary from region to region, and work visas will be more of a pain in some countries than others, but that just makes it a question of how much one really wants to go.
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I don't know how to answer that question because I have been many things in my lifetime, some of which were not planned but rather evolved into:

  • Between 21 and 49, I was an art director and graphic designer who helped to bring lots of new product to the market.
  • At 31, I was a common councilman who served on seven committees, one of which I chaired and wrote one of the largest sections of the city charter which helped to settle a discrimination lawsuit against the city and create the Norwalk Harbor Management Commission.
  • At 49, I evolved into a marketing communications manager, who also had marketing manager responsibilities, and even created the product ImageShades for visual merchandising that have been installed worldwide.
  • Now that I am retired, I created the educational web site MyReadingMapped which as of last week had over 735,000 Google Map views and 342,000 blog page views from 192 countries worldwide.

When I started each of these accomplishments I had no idea of my status. I did them because I enjoyed doing them and felt a social responsibility to use my talents, some of which I did not know I had, to their best use.
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