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Old May 30th, 2016, 10:09 PM   #11
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Late Sengoku Japanese armies weren't set up all that different from European forces at the time. You might as well call it a pike block supported by sleeves of shot, cavalry not all too dissimilar to Adolphus' Hakkapelita (both in terms of tactics used, and horse size), with one additional component. Skilled archers.
Would archers have made much of a difference against the European cannons?
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Would archers have made much of a difference against the European cannons?
Cannons were not used to any great significance in field battles at the same time as the late Sengoku period.

Cannons were large and cumbersome still by this point, and would be left behind as a battle line was fluid and changed. They were also easily disrupted by light cavalry, and samurai cavalry functioned quite well in such a role.

So archers wouldn't have made a difference against cannons, but that's because cannons really don't matter in this engagement. Archers would have mattered in supplementing the amount of "firepower" that can be brought to bear.

Imagine having to advance not only into volleys of muskets, but also volleys of arrows raining down upon you. Not a pleasant thing. If the European opponent was using a Tercio (which would be likely at this point), that would be even worse for them, because of the density of the formation.
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Cannons were not used to any great significance in field battles at the same time as the late Sengoku period.

Cannons were large and cumbersome still by this point, and would be left behind as a battle line was fluid and changed. They were also easily disrupted by light cavalry, and samurai cavalry functioned quite well in such a role.

So archers wouldn't have made a difference against cannons, but that's because cannons really don't matter in this engagement. Archers would have mattered in supplementing the amount of "firepower" that can be brought to bear.

Imagine having to advance not only into volleys of muskets, but also volleys of arrows raining down upon you. Not a pleasant thing. If the European opponent was using a Tercio (which would be likely at this point), that would be even worse for them, because of the density of the formation.
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