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Old July 27th, 2016, 01:54 PM   #1

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Could the Imperial Japanese Navy defeat the European navies in WW2?


Imagine an alternative universe where Japan never attacks Pearl Harbour, and focuses instead in conquering the remaining European posessions in East Asia and Oceania. Would the IJN had been able to defeat the Royal Navy, French Navy and others, and expel the Europeans from Eastern Asia?
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Old July 27th, 2016, 04:01 PM   #2

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Imagine an alternative universe where Japan never attacks Pearl Harbour, and focuses instead in conquering the remaining European posessions in East Asia and Oceania. Would the IJN had been able to defeat the Royal Navy, French Navy and others, and expel the Europeans from Eastern Asia?
In fact they did expel the Europeans from east Asia. As to whether they could hold on to their gains, it depends on how things go in Europe. If Germany was defeated or more likely some form of truce was made, Britain could then concentrate on regaining its lost possessions. Without US involvement this would be an even longer and more costly affair. Australia and Canada would need to vastly increase their industrial capacityin order for this to work.
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In fact they did expel the Europeans from east Asia. As to whether they could hold on to their gains, it depends on how things go in Europe. If Germany was defeated or more likely some form of truce was made, Britain could then concentrate on regaining its lost possessions. Without US involvement this would be an even longer and more costly affair. Australia and Canada would need to vastly increase their industrial capacityin order for this to work.
Yes, but I was talking strictly about the Navies. The Japanese Navy never engaged the British Royal Navy in a decisive battle as far as I know. Could it have defeated them and their allies(French Navy, Dutch Navy, etc)?
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I hope not. I quite like modern Japan but I wouldn't want to live in an Australia controlled by the aggressive, insane imperial Japan of the 1940s.
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the royal navy starts a long way behind the IJN in terms of carrier operations and suitable carrier aircraft. it was not a priority for Britain in ww2.
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The victory of the US navy in the pacific was not because of great battleships but due to their air superiority and the naval aspect of which was their aircraft carries. Britain and France simply don't have those carriers to mount areal assault against Imperial Japanese Navy.
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the British had the carriers but did not have experience in operating large groups of aircraft from carriers in a co-ordinated manner and poor carrier aircraft.

both which take time to develop.
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Sure they had them but what I mean by "they don't have them"is the number of which that the Americans and imperial Japan possessed.
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Sure they had them but what I mean by "they don't have them"is the number of which that the Americans and imperial Japan possessed.
they had them in significantly better numbers than the IJN, the RN had 7 in 1939 and commissioned 58 during the war.
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they had them in significantly better numbers than the IJN, the RN had 7 in 1939 and commissioned 58 during the war.
i see thank you for the info and I hope you can post the source.
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