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Old January 7th, 2017, 08:12 AM   #1
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What if Napoleon allied with Russia to bisect Europe among themselves


Would this have worked and could they have crushed the remaining powers in the region including mainly Prussia, Austria and Britain?
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Would this have worked and could they have crushed the remaining powers in the region including mainly Prussia, Austria and Britain?
Romanovs were ethnic Germans. Russia considered German speaking states as allies until Crimean war. So I doubt that Alexandr I would ever support Napoleon.

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Parbleu!

Un accord avec la Russie impériale? Impensable ... pour la France révolutionnaire!


Et bien sűr ... Vive la France!

That is to say:

By Jove!

An agreement with Imperial Russia? Unthinkable ... for revolutionary France!

And for sure ... Hurrah for France!
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Parbleu!

Un accord avec la Russie impériale? Impensable ... pour la France révolutionnaire!


Et bien sűr ... Vive la France!

That is to say:

By Jove!

An agreement with Imperial Russia? Unthinkable ... for revolutionary France!

And for sure ... Hurrah for France!
Napoleon (emperor btw) tried to marry Alexandr's sister.

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Napoleon (emperor btw) tried to marry Alexandr's sister.

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And this deserves a double "parbleu!" ...

But, actually when Napoleon was Emperor, he was no more a representative of the revolutionary France, he was actually a defender of the "ancient regime".
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Old January 7th, 2017, 01:13 PM   #6
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It might've worked if doable but there was way it would Happen under Alexander I and any alternative leadership just favoured immediate war with France. Alexander I was a strange man. As complex as Napoleon.

Almost all of Russia considered the tilsit treaty a outrage, the court, the nobles, the army all favoured war with France. There was never any element of Russian society the really favoured the French alliance,

Alexander motivation were complex but it's pretty unlikely the was ever going to be allied to Napoleon for very long. His personal proclivities, the influence of his sister, court generally, the nobles, the army, the business interest and the real interests of Russia in the abstract all where against Napoleon.

There was no way he was going to allow any of his sisters to marry Napoleon.
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Just about the only guy who wanted a Russian alliance was Boney himself. The Russians strung him along after 1807 to buy time, and eventually left the Continental System. The rest, as they say, is history.
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I think you are missing the point. I don't think he is asking if they would have allied. He is asking if the highly improbable happened, And they did ally against the other powers. If they could have taken all of Europe?

And the Answer to that is possibly. They might have won the initial war and taken the land. But there would have been constant revolts and would have eventually lost control. The cultures of those territories; especially at the time, would not have taken kindly to being permanently occupied. It's also likely if that did happen, that the Ottoman Empire would not sit out. And that would have been the makings of a pre-WW1, World War.

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No- I think a Franco-Russian alliance would've stomped Europe. The Brits might have still stood a chance, unless the alliance marched on India- which may have very well been possible.
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