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Old December 23rd, 2017, 06:27 PM   #21

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That's the propaganda spin..... Victorious armies rarely if ever throw in the towel... at the behest of the rank and file to boot

More likely they were being wittled down by attrition, diseases etc.... and the leadership understood the war was not going their way
It was a combination of climatic conditions making life extra miserable for the Macedonians, coupled with a large desert (Thar Desert) being in the way that contributed to the turn-around, it seems.
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The OP- Pretty much impossible even with that, as an empire can really only be so large in administering vast populations, especially with the limited technology available to the 'Great Conquerors', before it implodes (even with no civil and succession issues, general administrative and jurisdiction issues would still be prevalent). The one who probably could have come the closest to doing so though would have been Genghis Khan. Not complete during his lifetime, of course, but he basically did subdue China. Distance factors aside, I couldn't imagine anyone else being more or as difficult, especially at the time.

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You’d have to say the odds on favorite would be Julius Caesar. He had perhaps the best mind for the future and geopolitical climates he became entangled with. What he accomplished in Gaul is one of the most underrated achievements in military history.

He also had the logistical, technological, and system of governement and law that was the Roman Republic backing him to accomplish that which others that might be tempting to choose — Ghengis Khan, Alexander the Great lacked.
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You’d have to say the odds on favorite would be Julius Caesar. He had perhaps the best mind for the future and geopolitical climates he became entangled with. What he accomplished in Gaul is one of the most underrated achievements in military history.

He also had the logistical, technological, and system of governement and law that was the Roman Republic backing him to accomplish that which others that might be tempting to choose — Ghengis Khan, Alexander the Great lacked.
Not logistics. In terms of logistics, Genghis and Alexander had a leg up over Caesar, who ran into logistical issues more often than the other 2 did. Caesar had perhaps marginally superior technology and organization over Alexander with the legion and certain engineering techniques but they both had what was more than sufficient for anything they set out to do. Genghis would develop much technology and organization of his own as he fought more enemies and eventually had everuthing he could possibly need save possibly a navy, which would be developed by his successor Kublai.
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