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Old November 14th, 2017, 08:59 PM   #1

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What general/conqueror could have taken over the whole world if they were immortal?


Is there anybody you think that if they had been able to live for as long as they pleased they could have conquered the world(or at least the known world)?
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Old November 15th, 2017, 12:02 AM   #2

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Doubt it. The reason these things come to an end is they run out of momentum. They extend their supply lines, troops get detailed off or lose interest. The more territory you take the more you have to place troops in - or give to your troops. Or the troops go home loaded with loot. And in the more difficult areas your men would be getting bumped off, ambushed bit by bit, daily.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 02:49 AM   #3
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I could take over the world if I was immortal. I would use weapon called compound interest. After gazillion of years whole World would simply belong to me.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 06:20 AM   #4

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most likely Alexander, accounting for logistics.
he basically defeated everyone in his neighborhood. no reason why he couldn't have taken India.
China might have been too much. I can see him winning battles but ruling that many people is just logistically impossible.

I don't doubt he could have been the MesoAmericans of the time (Mayans? Olmecs?) had he transport.

second to Genghis Khan. he pretty much ran the table. we'll never know if he could have taken all those walled cities in Europe.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 07:01 AM   #5

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I nominate Sargon of Akkad. He likely had the best army for his time and if he lived forever he could have gone the whole way. If he managed to get Eygypt taken care of than the world didn’t really have other large states to resist him.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 07:29 AM   #6

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No one could because as he aged he eventually simply be unable to be active enough eventually becoming a wizened old man who slept most of the time.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 07:08 PM   #7

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he'd just eventually meet either Connor or Duncan MacLeod, and they'd take his head and his Quickening....
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Old November 17th, 2017, 09:19 PM   #8

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kev: the usual assumption with immortality is that one maintains one's youth
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Old November 19th, 2017, 01:50 AM   #9
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most likely Alexander, accounting for logistics.
he basically defeated everyone in his neighborhood. no reason why he couldn't have taken India.
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Except of course for the plain fact that he DID try to "take India" and failed miserably...
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Old November 19th, 2017, 01:54 AM   #10

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No one.

Even the most brilliant generals are constrained by logistics. They're also not infallible. Alexander would have eventually run into a defeat had he kept going.
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