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Old January 2nd, 2018, 03:15 PM   #21
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Beautiful map Naima.

When making a map one needs to start with real geography.

The earth's rotation causes the wind. The prevailing wind on our planet is from the West. This wind blows land masses with it -the reason the West coast of America is so small. There is never much land in the direction of the prevailing wind and what there is exists because of mountain ranges which pin down some of it.

Mountains are the covering of the cracks separating the plates making up the earth. The younger the crack the more volcanic activity and earth quakes there are and the higher the mountains.

Water always flows from a high place to a lower one and always follows the soft land -hard rock will force it to move around it. When drawing rivers be sure to make lots of right angle turns.

The earth going through alternate ice ages and warm ages. When the glaciers retreat they leave behind numerous lakes and swamps.

Be sure to use climate zones: jungle zone; deciduous tree zone; conifer tree zone; taiga zone (scrub); glacial zone.

Cities will be around 3 days travel from each other.

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Old January 26th, 2018, 04:26 AM   #22

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I've been doing this myself for a number of years, ever since I've read Tolkien's works, which inspired me to start crafting my own fantasy world.
As with the OP, the world I've been creating is devoid of fantastic elements, so no magical beings, or even magic, though I'm still not sure about this, and there's a possibility I will add some esoteric elements later.

So far, I've created a map. I've been working on it for five or six years. I have a single landmass, one large continent somewhat smaller than Asia, but larger than Africa.
I had problems imagining the size of the planet this continent was on, but I had some vague notion that if this planet had a single large continent, it would be approximately the size of Mars.

As a historian, I've worked mostly on the history of this world, or to be more exact, I started by devising the history of a single powerful civilization, while I have only some short details about other peoples and cultures.
Same goes for the language, I'm close to coming up with a basic outline of the language for this major civilization, though it's difficult to do this since the history spans for more than five thousand years, which means that the language will change over the course of time (just think Middle English and Old English).

Probably what I'm best at is coming up with the list of rulers. I've done a comprehensive list of Emperors for this civilization and then began to flesh out history from it.

PS Here's the part of the map I've created. It's a topographic map, and it was a nightmare to create, but the result was satisfying.
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If your planet is the size of Mars it would have around a third less gravity than earth, unless it has some unusual possibly magical property to change that.
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Old January 26th, 2018, 06:41 AM   #24

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If your planet is the size of Mars it would have around a third less gravity than earth, unless it has some unusual possibly magical property to change that.
Good to have in mind, although it's not really essential for me to specify anything about the size of the planet. It would have sense only if I examine how the people inhabiting that world really think about it. Maybe they have their own theories about it.
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Old February 17th, 2018, 01:51 AM   #26
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How do I create a Time Line? Its a universal timeline for the reader. I will call it the 'Age of Men' 'AOM'.
Where do I begin? With the founding of a temple? Or reign of the first king .
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Old February 17th, 2018, 04:51 AM   #28
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How do I create a Time Line? Its a universal timeline for the reader. I will call it the 'Age of Men' 'AOM'.
Where do I begin? With the founding of a temple? Or reign of the first king .
Each religion would likely have their own time line. But different people within the same culture/society might have different time lines. In Judaism and Christianity, time began in the Garden of Eden, but only clergymen and religious fanatics really believe that. Other people in the Judeo-Christian world with a more scientific outlook think that the world is very much older.

The beginning of your time line can be a little fuzzy. Your people were not always literate. From preliterate, aka prehistoric, times there would be legends that survive down to present times, but these legends would have incredible elements to them. For instance, legends often contain story elements like magic and other references to the supernatural.

Almost any event can be a credible origin myth. The myth would center around something that was important to that culture. The Garden of Eden is a story of paradise lost, and to a desert people like the early Jews, their idea of paradise was a garden. To the ancient Greeks, who were a maritime people who lived on the coast but within sight of mountains, their gods had to live on top of the highest nearby mountain - Mount Olympus. The Germanic barbarians lived in forests so they had sacred trees.
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The Romans were excellent assimilators. A new portion of the empire might be fully Romanized within three or four generations of conquest.
While the Romans were excellent assimilators, plenty of groups did not fully assimilate - the Jews still thought of themselves as Jews, the Greeks still thought of themselves as Greeks, the Egyptians still thought of themselves as Egyptians, etc.
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Old February 18th, 2018, 07:02 PM   #30

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Beautiful map Naima.

When making a map one needs to start with real geography.
Agreed on both points.

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The earth's rotation causes the wind. The prevailing wind on our planet is from the West. This wind blows land masses with it -the reason the West coast of America is so small. There is never much land in the direction of the prevailing wind and what there is exists because of mountain ranges which pin down some of it.
But this is mostly wrong. Wind is largely caused by temperature differences, not the Earth's rotation. The prevailing wind is usually from the west in middle latitudes, but it is usually from the east in equatorial areas. The wind does not blow land masses with it, as is shown by most of Europe, Africa, and Australia being west of the mountains.

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Water always flows from a high place to a lower one and always follows the soft land -hard rock will force it to move around it.
This is probably the most missed point in fantasy settings - water flows downhill.
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