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Old May 16th, 2018, 04:31 PM   #11
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Other then the annual fires that need federal help to put out... it might work.
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If California does secceed, it would go the way of ireland
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Old May 17th, 2018, 07:02 AM   #13

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History of the idea:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partit..._in_California
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Old May 17th, 2018, 07:12 AM   #14
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I voted yes. And good riddance.
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Old May 17th, 2018, 07:57 AM   #15

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Well, in a small way, California was an independent nation (for a few weeks) as our state flag reminds us:

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I voted no, even though I like the idea, in theory.
It would be an overall disaster because the popular vote (mostly from the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas) continues to elect far-left or socialists politicians who promise free services and sanctuary for lawbreakers, while the majority of California's counties are inhabited by hard-working, taxpayers, opposed to a massive government that is killing our economy and chasing businesses out of the state.

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Many countries in europe have international rivers, as does my country.
Only Texas has a great advantage has sea, salt water that can make drinking water problem solved for Texas.
Salt water to sweet water conversion is of course possible, but it is quite expensive. There is a de-sal plant on the Gulf Coast not too distant from San Antonio and close to Corpus Christi but I don’t know how it is doing at the moment.

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Old May 17th, 2018, 08:22 AM   #17
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In an independent California does the large Hispanic population pressure for a closer economic and even political union with Mexico?
No. The Mexican American population is American. Why would it be any different from the way it is now. As an Ecuadorian banker once explained to me when we were discussing hiring a Mexican company: “All business with Mexico is monkey business.” I hired them anyway.
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Mexican people who immigrated legally here want to be here and not be in Mexico... where food and beer may be great, but the system (political, legal, and economic) is still flawed in many ways.

We have always had close economic ties to Mexico but with our money mostly going south. There is a big flow of Mexican money north to businesses near the border, however. Mexican people who can afford to, like buying American products or products sold here without the high taxes (duty) that Mexico adds to imported items. There is a much larger selection of products here that are not sold in Mexico. Mexico is advancing economically with a growing 'middle class'. I travel often to Mexico and have many friends who live there (Mexican and American). It is a beautiful land and has great people.

As for the sea water to fresh water discussion, we are on the Pacific ocean! So, I don't see an advantage for Texas geographically, for getting sea water. A large de-sal facility was recently opened in Carlsbad (near SanDiego) that now supplies some of our fresh water. The same in Oceanside, as well. The tech for desalinization is improving. Northern California has many rivers. Southern California has the Colorado River, but that is over 100 miles from the high population areas so aqueducts were built over 100 years ago. The volume of sea water to fresh water is still small compared to the needs.
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Democrats would lose 55 electoral votes.
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Salt water to sweet water conversion is of course possible, but it is quite expensive. There is a de-sal plant on the Gulf Coast not too distant from San Antonio and close to Corpus Christi but I don’t know how it is doing at the moment.
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Yes the treatment can get more expensive.
* But candy water is also treated and has costs.
But for countries that have the sea is always an advantage.

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