chris zhou

Lu Bu, one of ancient China's greatest warrior armed with the jian, gong jian and the sky piercer vs King Richard the lion heart, leader of the crusades with the broadsword, shield and the crossbow. If the two of them fight one on one, who will win?

Salah

I'm not familiar with Lu Bu's weapons; if you give a description of them that could help me to make a decision...

DreamWeaver

Again, going to have to back Richard here, probably backed by an eldritch horror of some variety.

Sargon of Akkad

They're pretty fantastical, as with a lot of legendary Chinese stuff.

Since Richard has a thousand years of warfare technological development, I'm going to go with him.

chris zhou

The jian is like a sword, also known as the sabre or scholar sword, the gong jian is the chinese bow and arrow, the arrow tip has poison on it, or some dry straw dipped in oil and then lit on fire, the sky piercer is like a spear with a sharp edge at the side, search it on google.

Labienus

I am going with Richard. He routed an army by himself at Jaffa as the Muslims were so mesmerized and terrified of his presence and his legendary appearance on a horse, armed with a battle axe, daring his enemy to come fight him.

Thegn Ansgar

Lu Bu would have looked like this:

Armour, sword, and bow from this guy


The weapon this guy is using (a Ji)


Lu Bu fought only one duel historically, and he would have won were it not that he was outnumbered by troops. I'd still give it to Richard... He took an arrow to the neck, and probably would have lived if it was removed properly. The guy knew how to fight, and he knew how to do it well. Lu Bu would also be fighting from horseback with no stirrups, and so that would put him at a disadvantage to Richard as well.

chris zhou

[quote=Thegn Ansgar;334324]Lu Bu would have looked like this:

Armour, sword, and bow from this guy



actually lu bu look more like this



he'll have those long feathers on his helmet, the sky piercer, as you can see, is different from the ji, if you know the history of the three kingdoms you will know that he is also the best archer and the best warrior, Liu Bei, Zhang Fei and Guan Yu together three on one cant even deafeat him.

Thegn Ansgar

[quote=chris zhou;334541]1) There's no image that you've given

2) The way you've described him, is from a romanticized version that was written during the Yuan dynasty, which is almost 1,100 years after Lu Bu died. The sky piercer is not a real weapon, but is a fantasy WLO (weapon like object) invented by Koei. The pictures I gave are of what generals would have worn and used during the Han dynasty and Three Kingdoms period.

3) He was not the best archer according to history, Dong Zhuo was actually recorded in the San Guo Zhi (not San Guo Yan Yi, which is a piece of historical fiction... i.e. it's not true) as being an exceptional archer being able to loose arrows from his bow while riding, but he could do it ambidextrously and shoot from both sides of the horse (whereas most archers could only shoot from one side; the left).

4) The duel between Liu Bei, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, and Lu Bu is not historical but was invented to make the story become more exciting. In fact the entire battle of Hu Lao gate is fictional. Hu Lao didn't exist as a fortified area until the Tang dynasty (well after the Han and Three Kingdoms). Lu Bu has one duel to his name that was recorded... With Guo Si. And he lost. Guan Yu is at least recorded to be a better warrior than Lu Bu, as he as a confirmed battlefield kill against Yan Liang.

5) You should check out the real history (San Guo Zhi, Hou Han Shu, and Zhizi Tongjian) If you would like the links as to read them, I can provide them for you. However you should go over to the Koei forums, you'll be able to find them all in the Three Kingdoms history boards. There's a pinned thread called "Info Sites" Go and look at everything that is there. Because all that you have said is from the San Guo Yan Yi and did not happen/ is historical anachronisms.

Inflames

Either way the reckless bravery of Richard coupled with his strengths as not only a commander but a fearless solider should give him the edge. He was also supposedly quite big and he would wear very protective armour on the battlefield.

He was never afraid to crack a skull or two if someone got in his way.