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Old June 4th, 2011, 04:26 AM   #1
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Here is somthing i was just wondering how different would the world be if Nixon had won the 1960 presidential election? Would the Cuban missile crisis still had happen and if so how would he have handeldd it? And do you think he would have also launch the Bay of Pigs?
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Here is somthing i was just wondering how different would the world be if Nixon had won the 1960 presidential election? Would the Cuban missile crisis still had happen and if so how would he have handeldd it? And do you think he would have also launch the Bay of Pigs?

Now that's an original thought.... My compliments...

Because of the personality differences between Nixon and Kennedy the outcome may very well have been very different and it could have changed the course of history.

It is entirely possible that Russians were well aware of the plan for the Bay of Pigs invasion that had been set into motion by the previous Eisenhower administration.

Kennedy had been in office barely 3 months when approached about the necessity for the US to give air support to the CIA trained invasion force composed of Cuban exiles.

He refused. There are those that say that this is where he signed his own death warrant..

The secret plan for arming the island of Cuba with missiles was part of the ongoing covert war between the Soviet Union and the US. Russia had already been surrounded by US missiles installations in Europe and the Russians considered a move to Cuba as part of the same game.

Some say that Kennedy's handling of the missile crisis was an end game scenario that was resolved by careful but firm approach to the problem. He understood that Khrushchev needed a graceful out and Kennedy did not close that option.

I personally believe that the pressures for war comes from outside governments. It is furthered and provoked by a secret and black commerce in arms and products that once initiated, it compels governments to buy. We see it today.

Here is the difference between Nixon and Kennedy.

Nixon may have had foreknowledge of the Bay of Pigs invasion from being a member of the Eisenhower administration. In contrast, he would have been hands-on and supported the invasion with or without Congressional support. If need be in the Reaganesque fashion of Nicaraguan Contras.

With the US involved in the invasion, the Russians moving missiles to Cuba might have been too bold a move and it surely have provoked a dire confrontation. A secure missile base can not be in a contested location.

The US had always considered Cuba a vassal state and the intrusion of communism was too much to bare. Unlike Kennedy, Nixon would have risen to the challenge.

In my opinion this would have been a long and bloody war with a terrible loss of life and maybe without any final resolution.

On the other hand, the equally futile war in Viet Nam may never have happened...
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War in Cuba would have occurred, A short regime change, probably. Remember the CIA was conducting operations in Cuba already, which prompted Kennedy to fire the heads of the agency. I do not think Khrushchev would have gone nuclear. Kennedy was planning a phased withdrawal from Vietnam, which LBJ reversed. Nixon would have also continued the Vietnam conflict. The question is, would he have conducted a different war with a different outcome? Remember too, that the soviets had a regime change. Nixon and Brezhnev pursued detente in the early 70's.
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Nixon and Brezhnev pursued detente in the early 70's.
Nixon opened China that had a greater impact. I stand by my speculation on the differences between the two men would have brought about very different circumstances. I can not say the same for today's executive branch. Reverse Obama Bush and you might see the same scenario played out..
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Well at least that's some education. Why would you worry about that?
Nixon opened China that had a greater impact. I stand by my speculation on the differences between the two men would have brought about very different circumstances. I can not say the same for today's executive branch. Reverse Obama Bush and you might see the same scenario played out..
i agree about Bush and Obama. I do not believe Nixon would have conducted the war in the fashion LBJ did. For one he may have handled Diem differently and not gone the assassination route. I'm not sure he would have escalated our troop commitment in that fashion.
secondly, the Cuban situation would have been Nixon in concert with the CIA rather than the adversarial JFK situation. Regime change in Cuba. Neither side wanted nukes. So yeah, different scenarios.
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Diem was assassinated 3 weeks before Kennedy's. That was news to me..
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