A war in 550 BC: Cyrus the Great vs. Zhou Dynasty - Historum

Thessalonian · August 28th, 2011, 05:02 AM

Cyrus the Great is informed that a great dynasty is located in the East:
The Zhou Dynasty! Cyrus and his brave Persian troops march to the Orient!
There they will meet King Ling of Zhou.

Versus

The two armies have similar numbers in infantry and cavalry....

**Mandate of Heaven** · August 28th, 2011, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Thessalonian

Cyrus the Great is informed that a great dynasty is located in the East:
The Zhou Dynasty! Cyrus and his brave Persian troops march to the Orient!
There they will meet King Ling of Zhou.

Versus

The two armies have similar numbers in infantry and cavalry....

I fear that Zhou as itself at 550BC was rather weak. It had lost considerable control over the feudal states. The terra cotta warrior was Qin, one of the major feudal states which were actually much stronger than Zhou.

**Zeno** · August 28th, 2011, 05:57 AM

The army that can march to the other one's lands gets my sympathy vote in this one.

Thessalonian · August 28th, 2011, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandate of Heaven

I fear that Zhou as itself at 550BC was rather weak. It had lost considerable control over the feudal states. The terra cotta warrior was Qin, one of the major feudal states which were actually much stronger than Zhou.

I know that the Terra Cotta army is irrelevant but I couldn't find any proper images of Chinese warriors that depict them as they were in the 6th century BC.

**fangqingming** · August 29th, 2011, 05:16 AM

i don't think that zhou is good enemy, i agree with mandate, i think qin dynasty is more better. if you really want to search an enemy, war states period is good too, zhou's emperors are busy to became friends with all noble, and build chinese culture and Etiquette and ethics, they have no free time to fight .

Thessalonian · August 29th, 2011, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fangqingming

i don't think that zhou is good enemy, i agree with mandate, i think qin dynasty is more better. if you really want to search an enemy, war states period is good too, zhou's emperors are busy to became friends with all noble, and build chinese culture and Etiquette and ethics, they have no free time to fight .

There is a reason that I chose Zhou instead of Han which was much more powerful: In 550 BCE, when Cyrus the Great ruled, there was no Han Dynasty. It was the era of Zhou....

**fangqingming** · August 29th, 2011, 06:08 AM

i see, maybe zhao kingdome or qin kingdom is ok? near same time.

Thessalonian · August 29th, 2011, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fangqingming

i see, maybe zhao kingdome or qin kingdom is ok? near same time.

Ok, that's fine by me.

heavenlykaghan · April 16th, 2012, 11:46 AM

China in 550 BC was divided under two powerful states, the Jin and the Chu(a none Chinese power from Southern China). The Zhou king was little more than a figurehead. Hegemony of the Zhou realm was shared between the Jin and Chu in the treaty of 546 BC. However by 529 BC, the Jin appeared to have gained the upper hand as the Chu went on the defensive against the assault of the newly found Wu kingdom. Most of Northern China at this time was dominated by the Jin, which held the Zhou empire together in the name of the Zhou king. This would probably give the total people in states under Jin hegemony to be over 20 million, this was probably more populous than the Persian Empire at this date, but no where near as centralized as the satraps under the Persian Empire.

Ceasar · April 16th, 2012, 03:35 PM

I think that Cyrus would have the upper hand.

Also, please use spoilers when you post massive images....