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Old November 17th, 2012, 08:28 AM   #481

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I understand that Sandbach was married with a Dutch woman, and she helped him translate Ottema's (Dutch) book about the OLB.

But even though Ottema verified Sandbach's translation, it still is far from perfect.

He also literally copied Ottema's Dutch words for certain tribal names, for example the GOLEN. The OLB never mentions GOLEN, but GOLA; GOLEN is merely the modern Dutch plural. In proper English the plural should have been something like GOLAs or GOLAns.

But even in English that is not always true: in English we have MAYA, and rarely MAYANS.

By changing GOLA into GOLEN (both in the Dutch and in the English translation) the obvious similarity with the Hebrew GOLA ("exiles") gets lost.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #482

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That is probably a good thought (vrank)Abe , that the Anglearen were previously river anglers , but are now sea fishermen , it makes sense .

i am still tied up with trying to connect Cadmus with Kad-mu's , or Akkad - mu's , and the first Akkad-em-eis (Academy's).... maybe the first place the Alphabet was taught ??
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That is probably a good thought (vrank)Abe , that the Anglearen were previously river anglers , but are now sea fishermen , it makes sense .

i am still tied up with trying to connect Cadmus with Kad-mu's , or Akkad - mu's , and the first Akkad-em-eis (Academy's).... maybe the first place the Alphabet was taught ??
But why? The name doesn't show up in the OLB?
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Old November 18th, 2012, 11:26 PM   #484

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I am just following gut feelings to see what i can find .

i still like the idea Texila in india and Texland in Frisia may have been Academies , maybe Tessaly , so Te(X)aly (Thessaly) was another, all may have tenuous links to Frisians , and OLB
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You forgot to mention the "Taexali" and their "Laws" in Scotland, a tribe of Frisian descent.
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That is probably a good thought (vrank)Abe , that the Anglearen were previously river anglers , but are now sea fishermen , it makes sense .

i am still tied up with trying to connect Cadmus with Kad-mu's , or Akkad - mu's , and the first Akkad-em-eis (Academy's).... maybe the first place the Alphabet was taught ??
The OLB "Kad-Hemar" were coast dwellers. And some thought the name was related to Kadmus, the Phoenician prince, and even to the Phoenicians. But as I showed you in a former post, these Kad-Hemar lived between the North Sea coast and Italy. The name means something like 'landlubbers' in OLB lingo, or coast dwellers.


But why that socalled relationship with the Phoenicians?

Something new:

BENEI-KEDEM
Benei-Kedem - east, kedem, bney, passages, children, wisdom, uz, passage, job and israel

KEDEMITES OR EASTERNERS (Heb. בְּנֵי קֶדֶם (benei kedem, bene qedem), adjective qadmoni, קַדְמֹנִי; Gen. 15:19) is a general designation for the peoples living on the eastern border of Syria and Palestine, from as far north as Haran (Gen. 29:1–4) to as far south as the northern end of the Red Sea (Gen. 25:1–6). In Israelite ethnology, all these peoples, and the Ishmaelites as well, who ranged from the border of Egypt to Assyria (i.e., the Middle Euphrates), and who included the inhabitants of Tema and Dumah (Gen. 25:12–18), were all related.

Kedemites or Easterners

Kadmonites: The name of a people inhabiting the land promised to Abraham in Genesis 15:19. Jewish tradition regards the term as being identical to Bnei Kedem ("Children of the East") a designation of the relatives of the Hebrews who lived east of them.[1]

Kadmonites Kadmonites

In any case, the Hebrew "kedem" that literally means "before" or "in front" is sometimes also used in the sense of the eastern direction, since that is the orientation of the human body when a person faces the position of the sunrise. While "kedem" often has a spatial application, it may also assume a temporal quality as well, just as "before" may mean physically "in front off" or it may mean temporally "earlier than."

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What we need here is a cryptographer.
Someone who is able to find hidden messages in texts.
I have this strong feeling that the answer lies in some secret code, hidden in the text.

There are a couple of reasons why I had to think of some 'hidden message' in the OLB.

First is Over de Linden's connection with/interest in Freemasonry

Second is that every page of the OLB consists of 32 lines, and 2 pages appear to be missing.
The OLB alphabet consists of 32 letters, while it actually uses 34: the ;letters -W- and -GS- , though used, do not show up in the explaining letter sheet.

Maybe, again, all this is just another coincidence, sure.

Maybe not.

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THE MYSTERIES OF THE KABBALAH
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The Hebrew alphabet has 32 letters, which also serve as numbers. Some Kabbalists manipulate words and numbers for explaining much about the universe and the works of God. The number 32 denotes the number of degrees in the Scottish Rite. The Hebrew letters Yod, Heh, and Vav are an important symbol in the Royal Arch degree. Hebraically, these letters form the name of God and this is also a magnificent centerpiece of the Royal Arch degree. There is no question that the Kabbalistic En-Sof and the masonic manipulation of these letters are conceptually related.

The Kabbalists argue that there are 32 paths of widsom, which lead to knowledge about God. It is interesting to note that the Babylonia version of the Talmud has 32 tractates. Again, the number 32 is a significant feature in both the Kabbalah and Freemasonry.

http://www.2be1ask1....y/kabbalah.html


The Number "32" : is also very important in Freemasonry. There were only 32 Degrees in the Scottish Rite,, until Albert Pike introduced the 33rd Degree in 1832. Since then, "33" has become very important. But, still there are signs of the "32" in our society. For instance water liquefies after "32" Degrees. Was Fahrenheit a Mason? Probably. Where did we get the idea of "Degrees" to measure heat.

I think it had something to do with Jaques De Moley being burned at the stake in 1314. The "Heat" of fire would later be measured in degrees. Unless someone can point out that they used the term "Degrees" to measure heat back in the 1100's and 1200's, which I highly doubt.

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Freemasonry again:


The OLB letter sheet in the original MS:
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The OLB letter sheet according to Ottema:
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Notice the OLB letter for -G- ... (see Ottema's letter sheet). Cornelis Over de Linden (see original - brown- sheet) made a mistake, and instead of writing a mirrored -D- he almost wrote a capital G.

-G- / -D- is short for GOD.


Ottema added the letter for -GS- , but still forgot about the letter -W- which does show up many times in the OLB, and is a true letter, not a double -V- .

The letter -G- is used in Masonic symbology, and it stands for God or Geometry.

Click the image to open in full size.

These things were not 'mistakes', they were hints.


Check this Masonic site:

http://healdsburg-fr...son.com/?p=1321

And this drawing by Leonardo Da Vinci on that same site:

Click the image to open in full size.


In the top/left of that page with Leonardo's drawing you can see one of Otharus' former avatars on the "Unexplained Mysteries" site..


Of course I am not the first one to discover these hidden links to Freemasonry:

Het Oera Linda bok een maçonniek document?
("The Oera Linda Book, a Masonic document?")

http://books.google....AAJ&redir_esc=y


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In light of the different branches of Freemasonry and their respective lodges, there are different types of Masonic rings that connect with specific symbolic meanings.

The letter “G” on a Masonic ring can represent God or even Geometry. Another common symbol found on a ring is the skull and cross bones, symbolic of memento mori, or death. Having the sun on a ring can symbolize that the ring bearer is a Past Master of the lodge. Freemasons are devoted to Geometry and three squares on some Masonic rings would represent Euclid’s 47th Proposition in Geometry.

One of the most recognizable symbols on Masonic rings is the All Seeing Eye of Providence indicating the belief that God is always watching. Open book imagery on some rings is symbolic of the quest for knowledge by Freemasons. Masonic rings commonly have tools on them such as the Trowel and Plumb Level which represent various qualities one should have in life. As Freemasons ascend to higher levels in the fraternity, a ring can be purchased to commemorate the event. Common degrees for which rings are given are the 14th, 32nd, and 33rd degrees.

An old Masonic Motto from the 1700's “Aude, Vide, Tace,” is translated to mean “Know, Dare, Be Silent,” can be found on many Masonic rings. In addition, the declaration “In Hoc Signo Vinces,” meaning “By this, be victorious,” is another common inscription. An Eagle or Double Eagle with wings pointed up carries significance for a particular degree and rite of Masonry whereas the same eagle with downward pointed wings would be for a different rite and degree. An Acacia Sprig on some Masonic rings is symbolic of Masonic ritual and hope.


http://intuitivemean...-masonic-rings/
https://www.google.n...BMMb-4QSsjoGQAg


"God is always watching"........ remember the word "WAK"? It means, 'watch, look out, vigil.

WATCH.

I have always wondered why that word, WAK, shows up several times in the OLB. WHAT should we 'watch'.

I think it's an abbreviation of one of the several 3 letter abbreviations used by the Masons, and I once posted about an astronomical explanation (the three letters were the first letters of two main constellations around the Little Dipper (Kroder.) plus the first letter of the Kroder :

http://www.unexplain...65#entry4149537


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This is the Over de Linden coat of arms Cornelis Over de Linden created, and check what's inscribed at the bottom:

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Old November 26th, 2012, 01:09 PM   #490

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Can i see some symbols in the trees on that coat of arms Vrank , or is that just a trick of the light on them

You will know the druids considered the trees like a page of a book , the branches like words in a sentence , and the individual leaves the letters of words , is there some message written in those trees ??
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