 | | Speculative History Speculative History Forum - Alternate History, What If Questions, Pseudo History, and anything outside the boundaries of mainstream historical research |
May 4th, 2012, 07:37 AM
|
#21 | | Lecturer
Joined: Dec 2011 From: Late Cretaceous Posts: 469 |
The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one. | | |
| |
May 6th, 2012, 06:26 PM
|
#22 | | Archivist
Joined: Dec 2011 From: Quebec Posts: 209 | Quote:
What would be the reaction?
Fear? Curiousity? Hate? Something else?
|
I'd say hysterical. And like TJadams said, it would shake (if not, destroy organized religion). I would be very curious but also cautious. The reation of individuals over intelligent alien species will vary to an individual to another. However, I think the governments of Humanity as a whole would tend to be extremely cooperative. Quote: |
Would they probably be hostile or friendly?
| Hostile. Do you really think an interstellar specie that has travelled billions of kilometers just come here by accident to greet us? They are looking ofr something, ressources, slaves?, technologie, a new home. There is a small possibility that they may be friendly but I don't think that would be the case. Quote: |
What if they are friendly?
| Unlikely. If they are, humans will see it as a weekness and will try to exploit their "kindness". Quote: |
What would be make interstellar relationships with them? Would we try to annhialite them nonetheless? Would we exchange information? Or somethin else?
| One day or another, when humanity will have grown strong enough, we will backstab them. Quote: |
What if they are hostile?
| They will. Quote: |
Would we be annhialited? Used?
| Annahilated. What use will they make out of us? We are a technologically inferior specie (compared to them because they are able to achieve interstellar travel) so they can't salvage anything useful/interesting from our technology. Quote: |
Is their probably a general law in the universe that makes them look like us?
| You mean if organic life looks the same in the universe? Probably not but there will be some features that we will recognize (ex: eye(s), mouth(s), limb(s)).
| | |
| |
May 6th, 2012, 08:04 PM
|
#23 | | Scholar
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 734 |
I think that if we ever get visitors, it will be trouble for us. The universe functions by a universal set of rules, competition in many forms is one of those rules. If they come here it will be for a good reason, most likely for what we have up to and including this world.
They will have won their battle for existence, and they didn't do this by being nice to the competition. Considering our own behavior in the past and present I don't buy the highly advanced and enlightened theory put forth by Carl Sagan and company. I'll go with L-Ron Hubbard and Battlefield Earth type scenario. I do think a peaceful scenario is entirely possible but if a race had advanced so far as to free themselves from the need to compete why would they even want to come way out here?
I think we should just shut up and hide.
| | |
| |
May 6th, 2012, 08:35 PM
|
#24 | | Scholar
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 734 |
Maybe it will be these guys, they'll find us fun to run down and tasty to boot. | | |
| |
May 6th, 2012, 08:49 PM
|
#25 | | Scholar
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 915 |
How I would visit another solar system...
I think it would be quite doable. It would be an unmanned vehicle of course. Just too costly and difficult in all sorts of ways to send an actual human.
So you have a small smart module, with some extremely large nuclear explosives behind it. As it is leaving the Solar System, you give it a series of precisely controlled ka-blams, getting it up to some significant percentage of the speed of light... 25% perhaps? At that speed it might take a decade or two to get to the nearest star. Not unreasonable for a robot. And then some breaking explosions to slow it down again. That might freak out any intelligence at the other star. Mysterious nuclear explosions in the sky.
And then that small intelligent robot calculates the best path to pass the most planets, doing all sorts of reading and imaging and beaming it back to Earth. Obviously the robot itself would never physically return.
I think it would be quite practical if you were willing to play a long 20 year game.
| | |
| |
May 6th, 2012, 08:50 PM
|
#26 | | Kermit the Ripper
Joined: Apr 2010 From: California Posts: 2,602 | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeroenrottgering Aliens already on earth? You say they disguise themselves as humans? | You've never seen "They Live"?  | | |
| |
May 6th, 2012, 08:58 PM
|
#27 | | Historian
Joined: Nov 2009 From: Texas Posts: 1,577 |
I like the Strugatsky brothers take on it from Roadside Picnic. An alien visitation of some sort took place and resulted in devastation and anomalies in six locations across the world. They also left behind various artificats ranging from a wish granting orb, a deathray, and batteries that provide endless power. This leaves humanity asking what was the purposes, with the answers ranging from hostile invasion to an attempt to communicate and help humanity advance.
The foremost expert in the story voices the opinion that most explanations being offered are colored by human vanity. He suggests that the aliens were vaguely aware of humanity (in the same way were are aware of insects) that they had no motive or plan concerning us. He describes the first visitation as such: Quote:
A picnic. Picture a forest, a country road, a meadow. A car drives off
the country road into the meadow, a group of young people get out of the car
carrying bottles, baskets of food, transistor radios, and cameras. They
light Fires, pitch tents, turn on the music. In the morning they leave. The
animals, birds, and insects that watched in horror through the long night
creep out from their hiding places. And what do they see? Gas and oil
spilled on the grass. Old spark plugs and old filters strewn around. Rags,
burnt-out bulbs, and a monkey wrench left behind. Oil slicks on the pond.
And of course, the usual mess--apple cores, candy wrappers, charred remains
of the campfire, cans, bottles, somebody's handkerchief, somebody's
penknife, torn newspapers, coins, faded Bowers picked in another meadow.
| | | |
| |
May 7th, 2012, 02:19 AM
|
#28 | | Historian ¤ Member of the Year ¤
Joined: Sep 2011 From: UK Posts: 14,834 |
If we migrated from Mars there would be evidence of such. For a start, how would we migrate from another planet - on a space ship - with modern technologies, yet have to start from scratch all over again? There is a reason there is no evidence, because the theory is absurd imo.
As for the OP, considering the circle of life, the way humans and animals and even bacteria acts. And also how chaotic and dangerous the universe is in general. I would consider them hostile.
| | |
| |
May 7th, 2012, 02:41 AM
|
#29 | | Historian
Joined: Mar 2012 From: Following the breeze Posts: 1,204 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisieis If we migrated from Mars there would be evidence of such. For a start, how would we migrate from another planet - on a space ship - with modern technologies, yet have to start from scratch all over again? There is a reason there is no evidence, because the theory is absurd imo.
As for the OP, considering the circle of life, the way humans and animals and even bacteria acts. And also how chaotic and dangerous the universe is in general. I would consider them hostile. | Here's another theory, I know it sounds a bit "Scifi" but imagine this for a moment...
Life on Mars is failing due to the planets age and in a desperate effort to Save Man Kind(or should I say Martian Kind) a massive spacecraft is constructed and is launched on a mission to Earth, the closest planet to Mars, with every living creature upon it (literary like Noah's Ark) in the hopes of establishing life there... But, halfway one its journey to earth, something goes wrong and this massive spacecraft ends up crash landing on earth. As the years go by, the Micro-organisms(carried by the Martians from their planet) begin decomposing the remains of everything that was on this spacecraft... The plant life that might of been carried on this craft begins to spread... the Micro-organisms also begin to spread... and we all know the story after that...   | | |
| |
May 7th, 2012, 02:45 AM
|
#30 | | Historian ¤ Member of the Year ¤
Joined: Sep 2011 From: UK Posts: 14,834 | Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cell Here's another theory, I know it sounds a bit "Scifi" but imagine this for a moment...
Life on Mars is failing due to the planets age and in a desperate effort to Save Man Kind(or should I say Marshin Kind) a massive spacecraft is constructed and is launched on a mission to Earth, the closest planet to Mars, with every living creature upon it (literary like Noah's Ark) in the hopes of establishing life there... But, halfway one its journey to earth, something goes wrong and this massive spacecraft ends up crash landing on earth. As the years go by, the Micro-organisms(caried by the Marshines from there planet) begin to decomposing the remains of everything that was on this spacecraft... The plant life that might of been carried on this craft begins to spread... the Micro-organisms also begin to spread... and we all know the story after that...    | Nice theory.
But I cannot agree with it.
I do think that life may have been possible on Mars at some point in the far away past, who knows what we may find in the future?
| |
Last edited by Brisieis; May 7th, 2012 at 03:36 AM.
|
| | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Copyright © 2006-2013 Historum. All rights reserved.
|  |