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Old May 28th, 2012, 07:17 AM   #1

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Do you believe that the Da Vinci code is real? Do you believe the so called Priory of Sion is real? Do the believe that the Rose line leads you to the Holy Grail?
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Old May 28th, 2012, 07:46 AM   #2

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No. It's fiction. My husband likes it. I got him a replica of the thing from the book - can't remember what it's called, the thing with all the letters, for his birthday last year.
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Old May 28th, 2012, 07:52 AM   #3

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No. I believe it's possible that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married but not that there's a bunch of secret societies (which included members like Leonardo Da Vinci) that have protected the identity of their blood line, or that they know the location of the Holy Grail, or that the Holy Grail is actually the hidden remains of Mary Magdalene. I'm not even convinced there ever was a Holy Grail anyway.

Fun novel though.
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Old May 28th, 2012, 07:56 AM   #4

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Cryptex I think it was Louise. What confuses a lot of people about this pot boiler is that at the front there is a note from the author stating how all the theories mentioned in the story really exist, that is they are real theories that some people really believe in, not real facts. When you read about tourists going to the appropriate part of the Louvre and crossing themselves you have to despair for the intelligence of the reading public. It is a cheap thriller churned out to make money. Luckily for the author it seemed to strike a chord with a lot of people and so it has sold a lot of copies and been made into a film. But if you read any of his other works you will see the same formula repeated again and again, maybe with not the same success but still the formula is there.
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Old May 28th, 2012, 08:11 AM   #5

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People have a desire to be in on a secret. It makes us feel special. Some people have this desire more than others, and some have it way way more.

It's harmless, I guess.
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Do you believe that the Da Vinci code is real? Do you believe the so called Priory of Sion is real? Do the believe that the Rose line leads you to the Holy Grail?
Do you?
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Old May 28th, 2012, 08:50 AM   #7

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But if you read any of his other works you will see the same formula repeated again and again, maybe with not the same success but still the formula is there.
Yeah, that's my only complaint about Dan Brown's books - they are very formulaic. Still entertaining though - stick to what works, I guess.
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Do you believe that the Da Vinci code is real? Do you believe the so called Priory of Sion is real? Do the believe that the Rose line leads you to the Holy Grail?
No, no and no.
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Old May 28th, 2012, 12:29 PM   #9

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Do you believe that the Da Vinci code is real? Do you believe the so called Priory of Sion is real? Do the believe that the Rose line leads you to the Holy Grail?
Oh well, I can post here what I have posted in my blog [by the way, I have to go on with that article].


The secret society of Sion.


This definition is an other name of the Prior Of Sion, a hidden secret society, perhaps a Knight Order, which would have the purpose to protect the blood line of the descendents of Jesus. Nothing else that the Royal family of David - of Israel- if we think that Jesus, according to the Gospels, came from that dynasty.
A consideration:

Israel is a little country and a little people, so this dynasty, from the viewpoint of a lay observer, wouldn’t be so important, but from the religious perspective the descendants of this family would be the descendants of a dynasty “chosen by God”.

An alternative would be the descent of Akhenaten [the "heretical Pharaoh"], but once again: why this should be so important?

After this little introduction, now let’s see more about this ghost order: Sion.

If we start from Brown’s Da Vinci Code, just as a base, a suggestion, not as a document, we have to consider 3 missions of this Prior of Sion: to protect the dynasty, to protect the tomb of Mary of Magdala - wife of Jesus -, to protect and preserve the documents which would prove this “facts”.

Brown introduces in the novel also the conception of the Holy feminine, the mother Goddess and even sexual rituals in the original doctrine of the early “Christianity”, which was not Christianity at all.

It’s easy to see that these “revelations” had copied by Brown from some books written by “researchers of the alternative history”, mysteries … just like me, to be honest.

The main source was “The Holy Grail” by Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln, 1982.
The second is “The revelation of Templars” by Picknett and Prince, 1997.

Paris and the “Dossiers Secrets”.

These documents were found in the National Biblioteque in Paris and they became quite known in the 60’s.

The main information we can find out from those documents is that the Prior was found during the Crusades, about 1000 years ago.

About this: I wonder how is it possible that an order found only 1000 years ago was so trusted to receive a so terrible secret – from whom preserved it before of the Prior – which came from 1000 years before …

Of course the Temple Knights are involved in this: the Prior created the Order of the Temple. In the beginning of the history of the two Orders they had the same Grand Masters, then there was a division and the Prior entered a total secret.

This tale has got no evidences or clues at all.

Pierre Plantard

If there is a personage who deserves to be mentioned in this matter is Mr. Pierre Plantard.

This curious guy created, from the null, the legend of the Prior of Sion [actually he declared, in 1953, to be a commander in a "Prior of Sion"].

A particular of this "Prior" is that, according to the statute, it took the name from a hill called Sion in France, not in the Holy Land. To be accurate, near to Annemasse.

As for I can see in the 60's Plantard transformed this "Prior" in a kind of lodge hoping to give new life to monarchy and knighthood in France.

About the documents issued and / or collected by the Prior, I report what Plantard's friend, Philippe de Chérisey (1923 - 1985), said in 1979

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Les parchemins ont été fabriqués par moi, dont j'ai pris le texte en onciale à la Bibliothèque Nationale sur l'œuvre de Dom Cabrol, l'Archéologie chrétienne

"the parchments had made by me, taking the texts in onciale from the National Library ..."

Cutting of the elm 1188.

This ceremony, which would have taken place near Gisors in France, would have seen the division of the Templars from the father order of Sion.

Since this is reported in some books [ex. The Tomb of God, Andrews & Schellenberger, who are not historians] written by alternative historians, I take the occasion to underline that if such tale is that old, it's not absolutely connected with the Temple.

Sigiberto, the descendant of God - London connection

There is a basic document in the modern history of the Prior.

A letter written by the International League of Antiquarian Booksellers, London to the owner of the castle in Rennes.

In this letter there is the mention of a document signed in the age of Bianca of Castiglia [Queen] and the testament of hautpoul [Nov 23rd 1644].

The document would confirm that the castle at Rennes was the hidden place of Sigiberto IV, son of Dagobert II, in 681 CE.

Pay attention, researchers have stated that the letter is a forgery, and the League has claimed to know nothing about it, moreover the paper resulted to be from 1948-1950.

And Mossad ...

The tale of the Prior doesn't miss a presence of the Israeli intelligence [and how could it?].

In 1972 a personage appears on the scene: Mathieu Paoli a Swiss journalist who run some shows on radio [Radio Geneve] about the Prior of Sion. After that, in 1973, he wrote "Le dessous d'une ambition politique" [behind the curtains of a political ambition], where he discussed the present role of the Prior with the purposes to bring Merovinge back to the power in France

Then, Paoli disappeared. According to baigent, Leigh and Lincoln [our heroes] sustain he went to Israel where he acted as agent of the intelligence [also in Egypt].

The problem about this individual [and the tale sustained by the Prior conspirators] is that it's impossible to confirm it. No Israeli sources are available and in Switzerland they know nothing about the destiny of this guy.

So an other time, we've got an "extension" of the reality to support something which sounds more as an invention than a historical secret.

Leonardo Da Vinci

I cannot be sure if Dan Brown was thinking to what the Prior claims, using the title "Da Vinci Code" for his novel, anyway it's a very curious information to discover that the great genius was a GrandMaster of the Prior.

Which hidden secrets preserved the artist?

This is the most common question I can hear around [going for example to see the Last Dinner in Milan, after facing the usual mass of Japanese and Chinese tourists ...]. But probably the correct question is:

if this Prior kept on existing along the centuries, why did Leonardo feel the need to hide secrets in his artworks?

Now, I know that Prior followers will think that actually I'm hiding something using the known method of the negation ... anyway [I cannot avoid such a curious double level thought] I would underline that Leonardo was a genius, not a naive student [to say all he always refused to enter a university to learn, he had occasion to teach, because he said he wanted to discover and to learn by himself not trusting the words of others].

So ... if we are a secret society and we preserve a secret ... will we put this secret in an artwork? Why? If the secret society "dies" the reading key of the artwork will be lost, if the secret society "survives" the secret will be preserved in itself with well less difficulties [and less risk that an eventual key of reading could be lost].
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Old May 28th, 2012, 12:31 PM   #10

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It's loosely based on "Holy Blood, Holy grail" by Michael Baigent, Richard leigh and Henry Lincoln. Their book goes into far more detail and complexity. A real must for conspiracy theory buffs.

That said, this is more speculative than mainstream history so moved accordingly.
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