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Old October 10th, 2012, 06:48 PM   #21

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Surely that's Donald Duck?
That's Ehecatl, and sculptures of him actually show him with a duck bill so you're closer to the mark than the Ancient Aliens people.
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aliens or no aliens, the nazca lines and those crystal skulls really confuse me
The Nazca lines have been explained thoroughly and the crystal skulls have been proven to be a hoax.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 06:59 PM   #22

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Don't we already have at least one current thread about this?

Anyways, to think aliens had to have built some of the great pyramids, etc. of the ancient world, is to withhold a lot of credit due to the capabilities and imagination of our human predecessors, IMO.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 07:36 PM   #23

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aliens or no aliens, the nazca lines and those crystal skulls really confuse me
The Nazca lines are thought to be ceremonial pathways which were walked by those attempting to petition the gods for aid (probably to relieve drought).
That's my favoured theory anyway.

The crystal skulls are modern (Mainly 19th century) and none have yet been proven to have any link to aliens or even to South or Central America. That Indiana Jones movie was a real let down BTW.

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Old October 10th, 2012, 07:44 PM   #24

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That's Ehecatl, and sculptures of him actually show him with a duck bill so you're closer to the mark than the Ancient Aliens people.
Duck bill? Misshapen head?, strange garments?
Looks like the Aztecs were Frank Zappa fans!

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Old October 10th, 2012, 11:42 PM   #25
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What is supposed to be confusing about the Nazca lines? The method of construction isn't complex, it's just a matter of digging away the top layer of earth where you want the lines to be. And it's very easy to make a big picture from a smaller prototype by simply scaling up. Normally, when people bang on about something being too complex for 'primitive' cultures to have made by themselves, I'm at a loss to explain the specifics, being no engineer, regardless of how dubious the person's claims sound. BUt the Nazca lines? I'm pretty sure I could recreate them with a bit of help.

If your confusion is over why the Nazca lines were made, that's a whole different question, but I don't see it requiring any unusual or bizarre answer. My first guess would be that there was some sort of religious or mystical significance to the people who made them. People do all sorts of funny things for religion.
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The main point is that these "alternative historians" misunderstand the myths, the code of the myths, reading what is not written in them.

It's true that primitive cultures can see something "divine" in advanced technology, but for sure they imagine the divine in nature [before of science there was nothing but a deity to explain extreme natural phenomenons, a part the absolute case ...].

A curiosity coming from the years of WW II is that in the Pacific Ocean, some local tribes saw "metal birds" to venerate as divine in the American military planes flying above their heads [1943, New Guinea].
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I believe that it is completely possible that Ancient people seen meteorites or perhaps even UFO's of some description and were so in awe of them, they adopted them as a focus point of the folk lore.

But I think that's as far as any potential alien intervention goes.
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Old October 11th, 2012, 02:43 AM   #28

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When von Daniken's book first came out in the 1960s, it was avidly read by millions, but anyone with an IQ in double-digits soon asked the question why an intelligence that could navigate across interstellar distances would need pictures of scorpions and spiders in South America or enormous stone pyramid structures in Egypt in order to help them to land their spacecraft. von Daniken's ideas of space travel owe more to Biggles c.1920 than modern concepts. Similarly all of his other postulations collapse on the slightest examination-- he made millions though, proving that the public will believe any old rubbish.

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A curiosity coming from the years of WW II is that in the Pacific Ocean, some local tribes saw "metal birds" to venerate as divine in the American military planes flying above their heads [1943, New Guinea].
You are thinking of the "cargo cult". It goes further than you describe and is all about distant memory.
In the 19thC traders in the South Seas and New Guinea would swop european manufactured goods (cargo) for copra and natural products. The natives had no concept on how things such as woven clothing, tools, guns or even metal nails were manufactured and attributed their existence to some kind of magical spontanous appearance. The abundance of such things was influenced by their "communication" with their ancestors. In the isolated valleys of New Guinea and remote Pacific Islands visted rarely, the idea grew up that one day the ancestors would arrive with "much cargo".
Sure enough, in WW2, US troops arrived at these places, built airstrips, erected buildings and filled the area with all of the bric-a-brac of modern life. Giving the natives such things as tinned food, blankets and sometimes weapons and then, within a few weeks, were gone. The most confusing thing for the New Guinea tribesmen was the airdrop. They saw the odd Allied soldier talk into a box and then a big silver bird would arrive and vital supplies would float down from the sky.
A generation later, thinking Papuans and Melanesians were constructing bamboo radio sets and spoke into them to encourage the big silver birds to bring "cargo". They also built wooden and palm frond aircraft and control towers to further make the spirits feel comfortable. The Pacific and Melanesian cargo cults were similar to religious manias, even when some tribal leaders were taken to Australia and shown manufacturing processes, they found it hard to believe that the White men were not hiding the truth, that the ancestors were responsible. In one famous case a tribal leader being shown around a car factory expressed his suspicion by indicating the factory building and procaliming that the anscestors must have created the building that allowed the cars to be made!
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Aliens were involved even if only in small way in mans history...site any biblical or other religious account and ill explain how the aliens could have played a role
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Aliens were involved even if only in small way in mans history...site any biblical or other religious account and ill explain how the aliens could have played a role
I'm sure anyone with an imagination can explain how aliens could have played a role in anything. I could tell you a story about how aliens could have played a role in the delay of my tram on the way to work this morning.

The more important question, is whether there is any evidence they did play a role.
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