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Old November 7th, 2012, 02:23 PM   #11

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Old November 7th, 2012, 02:36 PM   #12

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I would say Africans. After all, technology brought the Europeans, which in turn ruined the way they had survived for thousands of years. I think they live pretty much in the stone age now, so it would be a fast trip for them to go back to that 100% free of technology. JMHO.
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It is not hard to imagine humanity without specific technologies. It is near unthinkable there is no sorts of tools at all - exept they are imediately reinvented.
Tools of some sorts predates Homo Sapiens I think. If some part of the species should survive without any for a long time (no greoup, however "primitive" does that) it would not be "nations" but extremely small groups.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 10:58 PM   #14

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So lets say that all the technology in the world disappeared and the humans had to start all over again.

Which nation would survive the best?

Which nation would become the new superpower based on population/ natural resources etc etc?
the ones that have the significant number of the population that knows how to farm. oh also, arable land is a requirement
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Considering the chaos that disappearance of technology would bring, as in starvation, disease, crime and government collapses, I'd say countries such as Mongolia where they still do without it to some extent would do well. The smaller countries with a lot of people, such as Japan, would suffer most.
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Well I'm sure they would miss the technology of making igloo's and hunting seals...

the question if far to vague, what do you mean with technology?
This then begs the question of what level of technology would humanity be forced back to?
Building igloos and hunting seals goes back to the very early hunter-gatherer period. Possibly 40-50,000 years ago. To the early Stone Age. A period far predating agriculture. At what time period does the OP refer to in human technology?
If "no technology" is available, then humanity would not have fire, clothing, nor wood, bone or stone tools, either. In other words, we would be reduced back to the age of the Australopithicenes or ape/men. In such a case, no nation would exist or be powerful at all.
I believe the original creator may have meant "Modern Technology, " which would only have begun with the Era of Electricity or possibly earlier with the invention of steam powered machines. In other words, pre-18th century CE technology?
In this case, the most "powerful" nations would be those that best fit this pre-18th century model. Everywhere else would be in utter chaos.

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I would say Africans. After all, technology brought the Europeans, which in turn ruined the way they had survived for thousands of years.
Most African countries are dependent on food imports. Changing production from export crops to food crops could replace those imports to some extent... But probably not entirely.

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I think they live pretty much in the stone age now, so it would be a fast trip for them to go back to that 100% free of technology. JMHO.
Before I say anything else, Africa is a big place, so we can't really say "Africa is XYZ" and have it be correct except in the most vague generalities. I spent two years in Uganda, and even saying "Uganda is XYZ" is too broad - these observations really only apply to one part of one country. But my observation is that this is essentially totally untrue.

Transport over distances over 10 km is almost entirely motorized, and the critical transport links are via (inadequately maintained) asphalt road. Metal hand tools are de rigeur. Almost all clothing is imported or made in a factory. Nighttime light is provided by kerosene lanterns. Radio and newspaper media are ubiquitous. There are lots and lots of cell phones - having a cell phone in my area was like having a car in the US; anyone with any money at all had a phone.

The collapse of the transport network, in particular, would have catastrophic effects. Kampala can't feed itself any more than Washington, D.C. can.
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Without technology there would be no 'nations' as we know them today.
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The production of heroin requires some technology
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