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Old November 20th, 2012, 08:02 PM   #41
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Wasnt East Germany much closer in nature to West Germany than North Korea is to South Korea? It could be like Hong Kong, where the Hong Kongese hate the Chinese who flood in for having bad manners and different customs etc etc......
There are any number of the same families on both sides; it would be hard to be any "closer".

Hong Kong is ultimately just another city among myriad of the immense China.
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Old November 20th, 2012, 08:15 PM   #42
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In regard to Spain and Portugal, most of Spanish agree with the idea, but most of Portuguese dissagree. We know that we are the closer people to each other in the world. But Portugueses are right, during the last millenia, when we came too close, they suffered. What is more, Spain right now is experiencing desintegration. Nobody wants to be inside Spain, people don't want to get into but to leave the country, individually and collectivelly. Is a total failure.

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I would like to see Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panamá united into a "United Republic of Central America". The capital? Let pitty problems to be solved in the future.
The very centuries-long identity of Portugal has depended by definition on not being Spanish, exactly the same reason why it has been the most loyal British ally ever.

Historically Panama was part of Colombia, and Belize has always been far closer to the British Caribbean than Latin America.
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Old November 20th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #43
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United States-United Kingdom-Canada-Australia-New Zealand-Ireland, not likely with the whole Republic/Monarchy divide but it would likely provide immense economic benefit with relatively few social side effects (as far as reunifications go) and essentially be a trade block in addition to a country, to say nothing of control of the seas in perpetuity.
At least America-Canada would make IMHO a lot of sense.

IMHO the other options would be simply too remote of each other.
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Old November 20th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #44
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How about Cyprus and the illegally occupied Northern Cyprus ?

Edit: Minus the Turks
A whole Cyprus is probably one of the best options posted here so far.

On the other hand, it is always possible that each side may unite with the respective homeland (actually already the de facto case for the northern side, legal or not)
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I was just going to comment that this would be one of the WORST possible unions, at present. Maybe sometime in the distant future we can contemplate a unified South Asia. Like, 100 years from now.
Maybe sadly, must entirely agree; IMHO it is already nothing short of a miracle that both Pakistan and especially India might remain still in a single piece.
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Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Bashkortostan, Kyrgzstan, Tajik Fergana Valley
Nostalgia?

Anyhow, Bashkortostan is still part of Russia.
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United States-United Kingdom-Canada-Australia-New Zealand-Ireland, not likely with the whole Republic/Monarchy divide but it would likely provide immense economic benefit with relatively few social side effects (as far as reunifications go) and essentially be a trade block in addition to a country, to say nothing of control of the seas in perpetuity.
I would love to see this happen, though I think we all know it is impossible. The two biggest problems that jump out are the Monarchy/Republic divide and the fact that I don't see Ireland agreeing to a Union with United Kingdom.
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Canada and the US, beneficial to Canadians, unless they start caring about the monarchy again. Detrimental to the US.

Belgium to France/Netherlands, beneficial to Belgians. Oh yeah, and Brussels southward would obviously go to France, and Flanders northward would go to the Dutch.

South Korea annexes North Korea, beneficial to the South Koreans,
detrimental to the Southerners.

Israel's population is removed and relocated to the US and Canada, the entire middle east benefits.

*braces himself*
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Canada and the US, beneficial to Canadians, unless they start caring about the monarchy again. Detrimental to the US.

Belgium to France/Netherlands, beneficial to Belgians. Oh yeah, and Brussels southward would obviously go to France, and Flanders northward would go to the Dutch.

South Korea annexes North Korea, beneficial to the South Koreans,
detrimental to the Southerners.

Israel's population is removed and relocated to the US and Canada, the entire middle east benefits.

*braces himself*
I do not see how the US taking over Canada would benefit the individual Canadian...
From my understanding the spreading of wealth, social security and medical care are more advanced in Canada.
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I do not see how the US taking over Canada would benefit the individual Canadian...
From my understanding the spreading of wealth, social security and medical care are more advanced in Canada.
I used to think something like that because of those HDI and quality of life figures seen in almanacs, Wikipedia, and other sources. That is until I lived there for two years. Medical care in Canada was very disappointing - except for the fact that everyone gets it! - American health care is awesome - if you can afford it. To live the same life I lived in America in Canada was financially impossible (literally) - I made less money doing the same work, was taxed double but saw literally nothing from it except for guaranteed healthcare (which I already had at higher quality in Maryland). It was much harder to find jobs (in a variety of fields), and the same sized house I lived in in MD would be double the price.

Although I was dismayed that I made less money for the same work, I was even more bothered that all type of goods and services were anywhere from 20-50% more expensive, with a more limited selection. Lastly, there are really only four cities/urban areas to choose from (Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary), and a very harsh climate everywhere. I enjoyed my time there, but life was harder there. The big kicker that Canada had over the US (IMHO) is that there was less violent crime and more economic equality in the cities (Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver and Calgary).

Canada is alright though, if I ever got kicked out of the US, I would probably live there, and I would even live there before certain parts of the US. Canada would benefit economically from a union that creates more economic opportunity, but then again, that doesn't necessarily make it right - they do have a different cultures, the monarchy, and some different ways of doing things. I always thought it was odd that despite the higher quality of life ratings, about ten Canadians immigrate to the US for every American that immigrates to Canada. It's even stranger when we consider that the US has ten times the population. After living there I've come up with a new social theory - people want opportunity, not a guaranteed lifestyle. Anyways - those HDI and quality of life charts made Canada look like a utopia but it was mostly the same thing except in a very cold climate except for the economic factors listed above.
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