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Old December 10th, 2012, 10:17 PM   #1
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When we discover intelligent life....


When we discover intelligent life on another planet, and we show up there to say, "hey," will we be their God's? (we should obviously not claim to be or nuture their own beliefs that we are gods)

An interesting topic that I recently touched on in another post and wanted to get a discussion going on it.

Imagine finding this world, visiting its inhabitants, and discovering that they have advanced intelligence when compared to their terrestrial counterparts. More than likely (depending on their stage of developement) they would view you as a God.

Now, imagine being one of these 'stone-age' creatures. You witness the arrrival of 'Earthlings'. You obviously know nothing about what you are witnessing and are in sheer awe and perhaps terror at what you are seeing. You would find it very difficult to describe what you saw. But there are some things you would know and you would definitely tell of them. You would know that a 'being/god/entity', what have you, was standing before your very eyes. You would be able to give at least a rough, accurate description.

Color/texture of skin, facial features, hair/no hair and where the hair was. You would know that they dressed in very strange skins/cloths. You would know that they came from the sky. you would know that they rode or drove a device/vehicle which would likely escape all of your attempts to describe beyond shape and color. (and possibly that it was metallic if you had reached a metal-working period. And if it had lights or made sound).

You would then associate anything else you witnessed with things that you did know. This is how the human brain works and presumably this beings (your) brain could be similar in cognition and creativity. The device/vehicle the 'beings' rode would likely become a flying creature from your planet. Let's just call it a bird. "...and this 'being' came down from the sky in the belly of a bird..." One can see a parallel between this example and accounts of Gods in ancient Earth cultures.

And imagine if you were actually able to communicate with these beings on a practical level. Firstly, you would, more than likely, believe everything and anything they told you. (I'm not suggesting that we would decieve the life we found, nor am I suggesting that the hypothetical aliens that were the sources for our myths would either).

Secondly, what would you ask them? meaning of life? origin of life? Or something else?

And any prolonged contact with these sky beings (Earthlings) would generate amazing tales. Epic tales. Even, what we might call, ...Tales of Biblical proportions.

Here are a few examples of likely accounts of Earth's activities on this new world beginning with some of those aleady established

--come from the sky
--ride or drive a device or vehicle
--speak "your" language
--create life (genetics, breeding) must have created "you"
--cures the sick
--ressurection (bringing back to life what appeared dead. i.e. anti-venoms, antidotes, electric shock, adrenaline, etc.)
--If "you" were to witness the use of (Earth's) weapons you might describe missiles as flaming arrows or comets...bullets (tracers and muzzle flash) as falling stars or fire. Lasers (even non-lethal) as flaming swords. If you were to witness an automated gun turret (the phalynx system maybe) you may choose to describe it as, "a flaming sword that turns round on itself" (Biblical reference). atomic weapons as pillars of light. and you may have even had these weapons described to you by an Earthling and you may 'know' that nukes contain "the power of the sun" or "all the power of the universe"

If an Earthling ever chatted with you about a disagreement between him and another Earthling, or a war back on Earth, you may pass this along as an epic tale of clashing Gods.

I could easily go on for hours but I believe I will await some other input and build from there
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If "we" find evidence of intelligent life, I think it will be very indirect. Like astronomers now have evidence of other planet systems. There is absolutely no indication there will be direct contact, less so in foreseeable future. But perhaps we should not exclude the possibillity of observations that are best explained with some alien civilisation. Still some altered spectrees or some signals possible made by "aliens" are very far from any sensational "contact of 3. degree".
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To be able to cure or resurrect our hypothetical aliens assumes that their physiology is roughly similar to ours.

Those aliens might look at us when we offer to be their gods and say "No thanks, we've already got some. And they have bigger blasters than you."
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If "we" find evidence of intelligent life, I think it will be very indirect. Like astronomers now have evidence of other planet systems. There is absolutely no indication there will be direct contact, less so in foreseeable future. But perhaps we should not exclude the possibillity of observations that are best explained with some alien civilisation. Still some altered spectrees or some signals possible made by "aliens" are very far from any sensational "contact of 3. degree".
I see what you're saying, but if a technology exists or existed that would support an alien interaction here on Earth, such as practical inter-stellar travel, then it's quite possible that humankind will figure it out too, eventually. But my main point was how it would appear to a primitive people. Not so much the plausability of it.
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To be able to cure or resurrect our hypothetical aliens assumes that their physiology is roughly similar to ours.

Those aliens might look at us when we offer to be their gods and say "No thanks, we've already got some. And they have bigger blasters than you."
We could always just blast them away to convince them otherwise. We would be no different then the Gods of Olympus...
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To be able to cure or resurrect our hypothetical aliens assumes that their physiology is roughly similar to ours.

Those aliens might look at us when we offer to be their gods and say "No thanks, we've already got some. And they have bigger blasters than you."
During the time we would have to spend there to compare with "God's" time spent here on Earth, I'm sure we would learn a great deal about their anatomy and could quite easily achieve such procedures. The ressurection thing would obviously need to happen in a very short time following the apparent death of the being. Such as when a patient clinically dies for a few minutes in the ER. But these tales would be none the less amazing to the beings
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This is a common speculation in SF environment [ufologists are more busy in imagining the arrival of a superior alien species here on Earth ...].

Generally the first point is about the contact.

A shuttle coming down from the sky [my be in a cloud of flames with lights, terrible sounds like thunders ...] would for sure impress the aliens [if they are not scientifically prepared to understand such an event, of course].

But then?

How could we communicate?

"We are human beings, we come in peace ..."

Similar words diffused by a megaphone would sound impossible to understand for the aliens [a deity not able to communicate with the "creatures"?]

This difficulty to communicate could generate suspect. The most imagined scenario is that some priests would think that we are "foreign deities", not their deities. This could be a problem.
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During the time we would have to spend there to compare with "God's" time spent here on Earth, I'm sure we would learn a great deal about their anatomy and could quite easily achieve such procedures. The ressurection thing would obviously need to happen in a very short time following the apparent death of the being. Such as when a patient clinically dies for a few minutes in the ER. But these tales would be none the less amazing to the beings
Yes, we would do this. Our contact with them will obviously begin by landing in their rural areas, abducting some local hicks, anally probing them, doing some experiments on, and mutilating their cattle and creating strange designs in their crop fields.
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If I may ever become aware of any intelligent life in this Planet, rest assured the Historumites will be the first people yours truly will let them know...



My scenario ... we discover a young civilisation, play with them until we get bored and then leave. A few thousand years later they are all watching History Channel documentaries and speculating about what the traces of our visit really mean...
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