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Old February 24th, 2009, 12:29 AM   #1

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Reading Lucius' thread about Britain staying out of WW1, it got me thinking about what would have happened had Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India etc not gone to war when Britain did, that they had stayed out of the war altogether.

It has to be said that many of the Commonwealth troops fighting on the Western Front were the best there were. The use of Canadian, Australian and New Zealand units as shock troopers was, besides being an enormous waste of life, extremely effective. Passchendaele was captured by the Canadians after the British failed to do so, Pozieres was captured and held by the Australians despite one of the heaviest concentrations of German artillery of the whole war. The Battle of Amiens was largely made up of Commonwealth soldiers (not counting French forces) and was enormouly successful.

So my question is, had the Commonwealth forces not gone to war with Germany, would the war have turned out the way it did?
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Old February 24th, 2009, 01:07 AM   #2

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So my question is, had the Commonwealth forces not gone to war with Germany, would the war have turned out the way it did?
Yes it would.
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Lol, as useful and valiant as they may have been, they were few in number and could not have made much of a conclusive difference overall.
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Lol, as useful and valiant as they may have been, they were few in number and could not have made much of a conclusive difference overall.
But the resources of the countries made the 'overall conclusive difference.'
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But the resources of the countries made the 'overall conclusive difference.'
Possibly, but the troops, while useful, would not have significantly altered the course of the war had they been absent (possible exception would be the Indian Army as they occupied significant Turkish forces for most of the war).
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Possibly, but the troops, while useful, would not have significantly altered the course of the war had they been absent (possible exception would be the Indian Army as they occupied significant Turkish forces for most of the war).
While I cannot express the desire that threatens to overwhelm me to draw blades for a duel knowing fully well the end result I shall abstain with great regret and sorrow from engaging myself in this sortie.

So.....Agreed.
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If you count India as a colony it could have made a difference, they were one of the few non European countries capable of supplying trained troops in any sort of numbers early on. Of course early on the French weren't undergoing the late was difficulties.

So all in all probably not.
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If you count India as a colony it could have made a difference, they were one of the few non European countries capable of supplying trained troops in any sort of numbers early on. Of course early on the French weren't undergoing the late was difficulties.

So all in all probably not.
Yes I agree that were critically war-winning in WW-2 but not in WW-1.
I think that if India was guaranteed independence at the start of WW-1 or WW-2 in return for being a small partner for the British in that and certain future conflicts, no war would ever last longer than 6 months, because the overly enthusiastic Indian numbers would win a WW by sheer force of brute numbers, I wonder if this ever went with some serious thought through the minds of the then leaders.
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It has to be said that many of the Commonwealth troops fighting on the Western Front were the best there were.
In their own minds anyhow
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In their own minds anyhow
Nah.. the Gorkhas for one thing were legendary.
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