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Old May 13th, 2013, 08:26 PM   #1

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Romanos IV repulses the Seljuk invasions and defeats the Seljuks at Manzikert. He then presses deep into Islamic terriotry defeating the Seljuks battle after battle and sacks Baghdad and takes the Abassid Caliph prisoner. The Seljuk sulatan sues for peace and pays the empeor tribute. Romanos has the caliph blinded before sending him back to Baghdad. While returning home he is murdered in Antioch and is succeded by his stepson Michael VII in 1074. The troops returning with Romanos hail the general Manuel Kommenos (nephew of empeor Isaac I) emperor. Manuel marches on Constantinople deposes Michael VII sending him into exile. He then prepares a army to defend the empire from the Norman and Pecheng threat

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The recently crowned emperor Manuel immediately sets off to repulse the Pechengs and the Normans. He halts the pecheng adavnce before facing the Normans but is defeated by the Normans afterwards he realises that his army is no match for the Normans. He decides to style his army like that of the Normans with Knights in Chainmail, lances and swords in an effort to repulse the Normans he manages to inflict a catastrophic defeat on the Normans stoping further advance into Byzantine lands. He drives the Normans from southern Italy and recaptures coastal cities including Syracuse briefly. Manuel uses the tribute from the Seljuks and the Normans to replace the old Theodosian Walls with Manuelian walls( Hope that sound too silly). In 1078 he leaves Consatntinople with his army to recapture Jerusalem. His army has some success and captures Acre before he is shot during a skirmish on the way to Jerusalem afterwards his army abandonds the campagin and returned to Constantinople crowning Manuel's brother Alexios Emperor.


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Romanos IV repulses the Seljuk invasions and defeats the Seljuks at Manzikert. He then presses deep into Islamic terriotry defeating the Seljuks battle after battle and sacks Baghdad and takes the Abassid Caliph prisoner. The Seljuk sulatan sues for peace and pays the empeor tribute. Romanos has the caliph blinded before sending him back to Baghdad. While returning home he is murdered in Antioch and is succeded by his stepson Michael VII in 1074. The troops returning with Romanos hail the general Manuel Kommenos (nephew of empeor Isaac I) emperor. Manuel marches on Constantinople deposes Michael VII sending him into exile. He then prepares a army to defend the empire from the Norman and Pecheng threat

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On the death of emperor Manuel I there were problems appearing within the empire almost immediately. The expansion of the Normans had been checked by Manuel but after his death they felt that the new emperor would be less capable and after recapturing Syracuse they were on the offensive. The Hungarians invaded in order to destroy the deposed emperor Michael VII to the throne. The costly wars Manuel I fourght drained the economy the empire seemed fit for collapse
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The recently crowned emperor Manuel immediately sets off to repulse the Pechengs and the Normans. He halts the pecheng adavnce before facing the Normans but is defeated by the Normans afterwards he realises that his army is no match for the Normans. He decides to style his army like that of the Normans with Knights in Chainmail, lances and swords in an effort to repulse the Normans he manages to inflict a catastrophic defeat on the Normans stoping further advance into Byzantine lands. He drives the Normans from southern Italy and recaptures coastal cities including Syracuse briefly. Manuel uses the tribute from the Seljuks and the Normans to replace the old Theodosian Walls with Manuelian walls( Hope that sound too silly). In 1078 he leaves Consatntinople with his army to recapture Jerusalem. His army has some success and captures Acre before he is shot during a skirmish on the way to Jerusalem afterwards his army abandonds the campagin and returned to Constantinople crowning Manuel's brother Alexios Emperor.
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Romanos IV repulses the Seljuk invasions and defeats the Seljuks at Manzikert. He then presses deep into Islamic terriotry defeating the Seljuks battle after battle and sacks Baghdad and takes the Abassid Caliph prisoner. The Seljuk sulatan sues for peace and pays the empeor tribute. Romanos has the caliph blinded before sending him back to Baghdad. While returning home he is murdered in Antioch and is succeded by his stepson Michael VII in 1074. The troops returning with Romanos hail the general Manuel Kommenos (nephew of empeor Isaac I) emperor. Manuel marches on Constantinople deposes Michael VII sending him into exile. He then prepares a army to defend the empire from the Norman and Pecheng threat.

The recently crowned emperor Manuel immediately sets off to repulse the Pechengs and the Normans. He halts the pecheng adavnce before facing the Normans but is defeated by the Normans afterwards he realises that his army is no match for the Normans. He decides to style his army like that of the Normans with Knights in Chainmail, lances and swords in an effort to repulse the Normans he manages to inflict a catastrophic defeat on the Normans stoping further advance into Byzantine lands. He drives the Normans from southern Italy and recaptures coastal cities including Syracuse briefly. Manuel uses the tribute from the Seljuks and the Normans to replace the old Theodosian Walls with Manuelian walls( Hope that sound too silly). In 1078 he leaves Consatntinople with his army to recapture Jerusalem. His army has some success and captures Acre before he is shot during a skirmish on the way to Jerusalem afterwards his army abandonds the campagin and returned to Constantinople crowning Manuel's brother Alexios Emperor.

On the death of emperor Manuel I there were problems appearing within the empire almost immediately. The expansion of the Normans had been checked by Manuel but after his death they felt that the new emperor would be less capable and after recapturing Syracuse they were on the offensive. The Hungarians invaded in order to destroy the deposed emperor Michael VII to the throne. The costly wars Manuel I fourght drained the economy the empire seemed fit for collapse
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Old May 16th, 2013, 11:08 PM   #6
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Romanos IV repulses the Seljuk invasions and defeats the Seljuks at Manzikert. He then presses deep into Islamic terriotry defeating the Seljuks battle after battle and sacks Baghdad and takes the Abassid Caliph prisoner. The Seljuk sulatan sues for peace and pays the empeor tribute. Romanos has the caliph blinded before sending him back to Baghdad. While returning home he is murdered in Antioch and is succeded by his stepson Michael VII in 1074. The troops returning with Romanos hail the general Manuel Kommenos (nephew of empeor Isaac I) emperor. Manuel marches on Constantinople deposes Michael VII sending him into exile. He then prepares a army to defend the empire from the Norman and Pecheng threat.

The recently crowned emperor Manuel immediately sets off to repulse the Pechengs and the Normans. He halts the pecheng adavnce before facing the Normans but is defeated by the Normans afterwards he realises that his army is no match for the Normans. He decides to style his army like that of the Normans with Knights in Chainmail, lances and swords in an effort to repulse the Normans he manages to inflict a catastrophic defeat on the Normans stoping further advance into Byzantine lands. He drives the Normans from southern Italy and recaptures coastal cities including Syracuse briefly. Manuel uses the tribute from the Seljuks and the Normans to replace the old Theodosian Walls with Manuelian walls( Hope that sound too silly). In 1078 he leaves Consatntinople with his army to recapture Jerusalem. His army has some success and captures Acre before he is shot during a skirmish on the way to Jerusalem afterwards his army abandonds the campagin and returned to Constantinople crowning Manuel's brother Alexios Emperor.

On the death of emperor Manuel I there were problems appearing within the empire almost immediately. The expansion of the Normans had been checked by Manuel but after his death they felt that the new emperor would be less capable and after recapturing Syracuse they were on the offensive. The Hungarians invaded in order to destroy the deposed emperor Michael VII to the throne. The costly wars Manuel I fourght drained the economy the empire seemed fit for collapse


After stabilising the economy by requisitioning Church money Alexios fourght against the Norman invasion at first with some success Syracuse was recaptured but in 1081 Robert Guiscard invaded and at the Battle of Dyrrhachium Alexios was defeated. He then decided to play off his enemies against eachother he bribed the Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV to attcak the Normans and the invasion ended in 1085 after Robert died. The Hungarians however were still a nuisance to the empire they had struck deep into the Bulgaria so Alexios paid the Doge of Venice to help him fight the Hungarians. The Hungarians were driven back and the war ended in 1090 once Michael died.

Alexios' position on the throne was still not safe. Consantine X's son Andronikos revolted against Alexios the usurper was defeated and he was executed under his orders.

Alexios kept his position on the throne safe he played one enemy against another. In 1118 he died and was succeded by his son John II.
John II took advantage of Seljuk decline and inavded Palestine he siezed Acre but caught an illness and returned home. In 1122 he recovered. After lots of years of fighting usurpers and defending the empires borders in 1140 he fourght against the Fatimad Caliphate who had also taken advantage of Seljuk decline to regain lost territories. By 1140 he was at the gates of Jerusalem which fell by 1141. John also wanted to put Egypt back into the empire. In 1143 he unexpectadly died in the Sinai desert on the way to conquering Egypt. His campagin ended with his death and his troops returned home to crown his son Manuel emperor.

On Christmas day 1143 Prince Manuel was crowned Manuel II. He was an ambitous man and an excellent diplomat keen to revive the Roman Empire. In 1155 another man egar to become sole emperor of the Romans was crowned he was Frederick I Barbarrosa. Frederick fourght in a long conflict with the pope. Manuel sent troops to support the pope in his struggle and also sent troops and money Republicans fighting Frederick. After Frederick was defeated Manuel fought his own conflict against the pope he led an army into Italy defeated the Normans and Rome itself fell. Pope Alexander III sent a letter asking for help from Frederick in response Frederick I invaded Italy but Manuel managed to urge the Doge of Venice and the rulers of rich Italian cities to support him. Frederick was defeated a second time and the Norman kingdom of Scilily fell.

Manuel turned on his former ally the Doge of Venice. Manuel ordered that all the Venetians in the mpire were to be arrested the Doge launched a counterattack on Manuel and was defeated. Manuel sacked Venice and his soldiers were let free to commit attrocities women and children were killed in this bloody slaughter and Venice was annexed. Manuel now ruled half of Italy including Rome, Sicily, Ravenna and Venice.

He had the ancient capital in his hands. In 1178 Frederick launched an invasion of Italy to retake terriotories for his empire. In 1180 Manuel died and young Alexios II came to the throne.

Frederick defeated Alexios' forces in Italy and forced him to make a treaty with him in which Alexios' had to give up Southern Italy and Venice to the empire. Ravenna and Rome were to remain property of the empire.

In 1190 Alexios was murdered and was succeded by his 1 year old son Leo VII.
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Old May 17th, 2013, 12:39 AM   #7
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Romanos IV repulses the Seljuk invasions and defeats the Seljuks at Manzikert. He then presses deep into Islamic terriotry defeating the Seljuks battle after battle and sacks Baghdad and takes the Abassid Caliph prisoner. The Seljuk sulatan sues for peace and pays the empeor tribute. Romanos has the caliph blinded before sending him back to Baghdad. While returning home he is murdered in Antioch and is succeded by his stepson Michael VII in 1074. The troops returning with Romanos hail the general Manuel Kommenos (nephew of empeor Isaac I) emperor. Manuel marches on Constantinople deposes Michael VII sending him into exile. He then prepares a army to defend the empire from the Norman and Pecheng threat.

The recently crowned emperor Manuel immediately sets off to repulse the Pechengs and the Normans. He halts the pecheng adavnce before facing the Normans but is defeated by the Normans afterwards he realises that his army is no match for the Normans. He decides to style his army like that of the Normans with Knights in Chainmail, lances and swords in an effort to repulse the Normans he manages to inflict a catastrophic defeat on the Normans stoping further advance into Byzantine lands. He drives the Normans from southern Italy and recaptures coastal cities including Syracuse briefly. Manuel uses the tribute from the Seljuks and the Normans to replace the old Theodosian Walls with Manuelian walls( Hope that sound too silly). In 1078 he leaves Consatntinople with his army to recapture Jerusalem. His army has some success and captures Acre before he is shot during a skirmish on the way to Jerusalem afterwards his army abandonds the campagin and returned to Constantinople crowning Manuel's brother Alexios Emperor.

On the death of emperor Manuel I there were problems appearing within the empire almost immediately. The expansion of the Normans had been checked by Manuel but after his death they felt that the new emperor would be less capable and after recapturing Syracuse they were on the offensive. The Hungarians invaded in order to destroy the deposed emperor Michael VII to the throne. The costly wars Manuel I fourght drained the economy the empire seemed fit for collapse

After stabilising the economy by requisitioning Church money Alexios fourght against the Norman invasion at first with some success Syracuse was recaptured but in 1081 Robert Guiscard invaded and at the Battle of Dyrrhachium Alexios was defeated. He then decided to play off his enemies against eachother he bribed the Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV to attcak the Normans and the invasion ended in 1085 after Robert died. The Hungarians however were still a nuisance to the empire they had struck deep into the Bulgaria so Alexios paid the Doge of Venice to help him fight the Hungarians. The Hungarians were driven back and the war ended in 1090 once Michael died.

Alexios' position on the throne was still not safe. Consantine X's son Andronikos revolted against Alexios the usurper was defeated and he was executed under his orders.

Alexios kept his position on the throne safe he played one enemy against another. In 1118 he died and was succeded by his son John II.
John II took advantage of Seljuk decline and inavded Palestine he siezed Acre but caught an illness and returned home. In 1122 he recovered. After lots of years of fighting usurpers and defending the empires borders in 1140 he fourght against the Fatimad Caliphate who had also taken advantage of Seljuk decline to regain lost territories. By 1140 he was at the gates of Jerusalem which fell by 1141. John also wanted to put Egypt back into the empire. In 1143 he unexpectadly died in the Sinai desert on the way to conquering Egypt. His campagin ended with his death and his troops returned home to crown his son Manuel emperor.

On Christmas day 1143 Prince Manuel was crowned Manuel II. He was an ambitous man and an excellent diplomat keen to revive the Roman Empire. In 1155 another man egar to become sole emperor of the Romans was crowned he was Frederick I Barbarrosa. Frederick fourght in a long conflict with the pope. Manuel sent troops to support the pope in his struggle and also sent troops and money Republicans fighting Frederick. After Frederick was defeated Manuel fought his own conflict against the pope he led an army into Italy defeated the Normans and Rome itself fell. Pope Alexander III sent a letter asking for help from Frederick in response Frederick I invaded Italy but Manuel managed to urge the Doge of Venice and the rulers of rich Italian cities to support him. Frederick was defeated a second time and the Norman kingdom of Scilily fell.

Manuel turned on his former ally the Doge of Venice. Manuel ordered that all the Venetians in the mpire were to be arrested the Doge launched a counterattack on Manuel and was defeated. Manuel sacked Venice and his soldiers were let free to commit attrocities women and children were killed in this bloody slaughter and Venice was annexed. Manuel now ruled half of Italy including Rome, Sicily, Ravenna and Venice.

He had the ancient capital in his hands. In 1178 Frederick launched an invasion of Italy to retake terriotories for his empire. In 1180 Manuel died and young Alexios II came to the throne.

Frederick defeated Alexios' forces in Italy and forced him to make a treaty with him in which Alexios' had to give up Southern Italy and Venice to the empire. Ravenna and Rome were to remain property of the empire.

In 1190 Alexios was murdered and was succeded by his 1 year old son Leo VII.

Leo was the last emperor from the Comnenus dynasty in 1190 the year Leo came to power he was overthrown by Basileos who declared himself Basil III.

During Basil III'S rule the empire was stable he made a treaty with the aged emperor Frederick I( As he did not die in the Third Crusade).

Basil reigned for two years and was succeded by his son Michael VIII who was overthrown by Manuel's brother Andronikos I the last of the Commenun emperors. His rule was tyrannical and he had his grand nephew Leo executed. He was feared and hated but in 1195 he was overthrown by Heraclius II the first emperor of the Armenian dynasty.

Heraclius II dealt with all his political rivals by assainating them. He was a great warrior and an ambitous man with a fierce temper. He started his reign by spending all of the empire's money to invade Egypt he built a huge navy. In 1196 he sailed to Damietta and siezed it. After the Nile flooded they took Cairo and Egypt was back into the empire. After Heraclius' victory parade in Constantinople he was murdered by the Varangian guard. On his death Heraclius' son Michael IX came to the throne. Just as it had been on the death of Manuel I the empire seemed fit for collapse.
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