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Old June 25th, 2009, 11:45 AM   #1
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Lets say in the battle of Stalingrad that the Luftwaffe was able to bring the needed 500 tons of supplies to Stalingrad on time every time and make sure they actually got it and lets say Field Marshall Manstein and his men were better able to fight the Russians outside of the city. Do you think it would have changed the tide of that battle or the war as a whole?
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It would have set back the Russians and prolonged the war for a few years but the Nazis would still have to deal with General Winter that would render their tanks, air force and supply trucks useless, partisans and the more numerous better-equipped Red Army supplied by factories in the Urals which were out of the Luftwaffe's range.
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Yeah that probably would have happened. Though if the air force could have kept up with supplies the men wouldn't have been starving like they were and on top of that they would not have had to ration bullets and fuel as much either. So the fighting inside of the city would have been more fierce and possibly a lot more mobile. If Manstein could get more ground and be a serious threat on the outside. That could have provided a very serious threat for the Soviet military. I know the Soviets had at least a million men but if there was a well supply german army inside and outside the city. The possible battle outcome could have been extremely different. Remember the German's whole offensive at Kursk was to regain the advantage of the eastern front. Though back to Stalingrad.

If Manstein from the outside became a serious threat and paulus and his men holding out fiercely could have possibly turned the battle very much in the German favor. I think even to the point where they would have won. I know other forces tried to help manstein on other fronts but I don't much about who they were at all. It would not have completely destroyed the Soviets though if the they were to have such a humiliating defeat at the hands of the smaller German force it would have certainly changed morale and hopes on each side. Cause many on each side began seeing the inevitable german defeat after this battle. Though it would probably have been the other way around or it would have seemed as if the war would certainly last much longer.
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The other question that I would have is could the Luftwaffe supply the big stuff. Food, ammo, uniforms are one thing. What about replacement tanks, spgs, arty, and anti-tank guns?
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The other question that I would have is could the Luftwaffe supply the big stuff. Food, ammo, uniforms are one thing. What about replacement tanks, spgs, arty, and anti-tank guns?
germans during ww2 did invent a huge carry plane to transport large equitment! Possable if things went right and germans bulid enough of the carry planes,it just might have.

You know the large US air-craft carrrier plane that carries tank,truck and plane carrier? That plane was desighn from the german desighn from a ww2 plane.
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The Hercules military transport.
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germans during ww2 did invent a huge carry plane to transport large equitment! Possable if things went right and germans bulid enough of the carry planes,it just might have.

You know the large US air-craft carrrier plane that carries tank,truck and plane carrier? That plane was desighn from the german desighn from a ww2 plane.
Then maybe you can help me out. I'm not up to speed on German Xport aircraft. Which aircraft was it?
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America's first stealth bomber (Flying Wing) was also based on captured German designs.
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The Hercules military transport.
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Then maybe you can help me out. I'm not up to speed on German Xport aircraft. Which aircraft was it?
Julius- Yes,that's the one i was talking about.

diddyddick- I am no expert on germany or any countries ww2 warfare,i just love ww2.
I have seen alot of docomentries on ww2 and I happend to come across a docomentrie in which was talking about the german 4 eigine huge carrier plane,that could transport large trucks,tanks and other aircraft.
It was very slow aircraft,so it often was shot down.

If i can recall,no other country had desighn an aircraft like the german one, during ww2! unfortunatly i can't remeber the name of it.

The point is that after ww2,the Americans gain the plans of german military.

Now we have gone way of topic now
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Hitler was so anxious to get ahold of the Caucasus oil fields that he kinda forgot about destroying the Red Army. He was not a good general.
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