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Old November 24th, 2014, 09:33 AM   #1

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Russia Attempts to Destabilize the Baltic States in the Early 2000s?


What if Russia attempts to destabilize some or all of the Baltic states in the early 2000s (in the style of what Russia is currently doing in Ukraine) in order to punish these states for seeking to join the EU and/or NATO? How successful would Russia have been in accomplishing this if it would have decided to do this back then?

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I think that the next step of Russia will be the destabilization of the Balkans.

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I think that the next step of Russia will be the destabilization of the Balkans.

"Joint Exercise - Sremska 2014"
B92 - News - Russia airdrops combat vehicles in Serbia as part of drills
I was talking about the Baltic states here, rather than about the Balkans.
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Putin's appetites were not that big in those years. Your thread will turn into current events debate because of...rurrent events))and the words of Lithuanian president:""Europe must, first of all, realize that what Russia is doing now is an attempt to redraw the post-war … map and borders. So, first, it's Ukraine, Moldova will be next and, finally, it can reach the Baltic States and Poland."

So far, your thread is in speculative history and since the like of Redbad appeared here, let me ridicule a lil but with what you are going to read here. And...... you are going to read the same stuff you can read in other threads about Ukraine:

We will stand with one democratic voice, Rasmussen's, and confront Putin the Menace of Moscow, who is, perhaps, inspired by Satan. We will support the brave boys of Kiev, including those with an interest in Nordic Mythology and Runes. For they are the shining beacon on the hill proudly proclaiming, occasionally with funny salutes, that Freedom and Democracy newly found in Kiev and Lvov will be defended against the Expansionist Stalinist Black Hole of Putin that wants to suck them in until their runic banners fly no more.

Quite possibly, if it can be arranged, there will be a Moscow Maidan. And Putin will be torn down from his throne, like some Soviet statue discarded and swept aside by Freedom and Democracy. Then we will show him how to properly manage his oil and gas, we'll show him how it's done.


His time is up. We will not stand idly by while he is strident, and we have trident in Scotland ruled by the Royal Queen of democracy and Mr. Obomber in our land of free.

I hope moderators will apologize me my frolics. Just kidding. Proceed without me, gentlemen.
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I don't think that in 2000 there was much interference with Baltic states. Just usual stuff blaming for persecution of Russian speakers, financing some political parties, periodically messing with trucks from Baltic states while crossing Russian borders, banning some products. Most difficult time was soon after separation, Russia started blockade, factories making parts for Russian market went bankrupt.
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I think that the next step of Russia will be the destabilization of the Balkans.

"Joint Exercise - Sremska 2014"
B92 - News - Russia airdrops combat vehicles in Serbia as part of drills
Russia coming to Serbia's aid? Oh great, that worked out well the last time we went down that road.
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Baltic states and Ukraine were off Russian radar in early 2000s. In early 2000s Russia was pre-occupied with redistribution of assets between 'siloviki' . Many oligarchs were expelled. Khodorkovsky was jailed, while others were forced to sell their stakes. There is plenty written on the subject. There was also ongoing problems in Chechnya.

It's after 2010 that Russia began asserting political influence over some former Soviet republics. Baltic states are members of EU and NATO, which can provide political, financial and military support if necessary. Next year Russia will complete border demarcation with Latvia and Estonia.
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