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View Poll Results: Gurkhas or Sikhs
Gurkhas! 38 71.70%
Sikhs! 15 28.30%
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 01:34 AM   #1

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Gurkhas vs. Sikhs


19th century Gurkhas vs. 19th century Sikh regiment. Simple enough.

Gurkhas

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Fearsome reputation as excellent melee fighters and generally all around tough-as-nails fighters, and of course for their kukris, which the gentleman above is wielding, many enemies fleeing at the mere mention that Gurkhas were on the way.

Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw, of the Indian Army famously said:

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"If anyone says he's not afraid of dying, he is either lying or he is a Gurkha."
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Pretty much shock troops for the British Empire (we had a talent for incorporating those who gave us a run for our money!) they had built up such a reputation over the decades, in one case impressing a young Austrian during the Great War who would later go on to try to woo over the Sikhs in 1931 to join Germany. Fortunately most of them decided against it.

This is a tough one, I can't really even decide myself to be honest, I admire them both greatly.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 02:09 AM   #2

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Pretty much shock troops for the British Empire
Just about everyone who wasn't English was shock troops for the British Empire.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:43 AM   #3

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Shocked troops might be a better description.
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Alright then
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Gurkhas, hands down.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 12:32 PM   #6

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Just about everyone who wasn't English was shock troops for the British Empire.
How true.......
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Old November 4th, 2009, 01:22 PM   #7

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Seems the Gurkhas are miles ahead..

As to just about everyone being shock troops for the British Empire, there is a degree of truth about it, but we had an incredibly long ranging empire, we encountered many many different cultures with long-standing martial traditions.

If you look on the list of Martial Races that the British Empire compiled, there are quite a few names on there that enjoy a reputation to this day as fine soldiers, its not a completely idiotic idea (though they passed over the Maharthas unfortunately).

There are also plenty of cultures that are not on that list. Many cultures who provided excellent troops but just don't seem to be regarded as a martial race.

I think the efforts and skill of the average rank and file Englishman are overlooked a great deal, as well as the Welsh and the Irish. I will address that in a different thread (most likely that greatest soldiers thread, that seems appropriate, even though it seems to be a giant cultural pissing contest).

I just made this thread to chat about two cultures that hold a much deserved reputation as fine warriors in the Empire, and even to this day.

Anyways, end of a rant that was largely un-necessary and rambling.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 11:52 AM   #8

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I think the shock troops were the same troops as they are now basically. Namely the Scots.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 02:28 PM   #9

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Nice revive.

I would have to go with the Gurkhas but its a very, very close call the Sikhs were outstanding troops.
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Old February 6th, 2012, 01:44 AM   #10
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I'll give it to the Sikhs, the only question being if it had been 21 Gurkhas at [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Saragarhi"]Battle_of_Saragarhi[/ame] would they have won???

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