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January 15th, 2010, 09:03 PM
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#1 | | Lecturer
Joined: Oct 2009 From: Behind a white screen Posts: 262 | The use of smoke in warfare
During the battle of Hattin in 1187 Saladin had fires lightened. He did this to blind the thirsty, harassed crusaders army that they were surrounding.
The Swedish also used smoke to blind the Russians during their struggles with Peter the Great. The Swedish had created a square boat with a sort of drawbridge that protected those inside. As they crossed the cold Russian rivers, they put up fires to hide these boats until they were at the other side. It was of course necessary that the wind was favourable.
Any other examples of the use of smoke during wars?
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January 15th, 2010, 09:15 PM
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#2 | | Megas Domestikos
Joined: Dec 2009 From: Canada Posts: 2,475 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare
Hello, dear relative.
At Adrianople in 378, the Goths used smoke which blew into the Roman lines.
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January 16th, 2010, 03:20 AM
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#3 | | Scholar
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 695 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare
In more 'recent' times, the use of smoke became quite common. For example, in WWII there were specific artillery shells which generated smoke. Some AFV's had smoke generating cannisters. The purpose of course was to restrict the visibility of enemy troops to allow, for instance, attackers to advance across open ground.
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January 16th, 2010, 03:34 AM
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#4 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Jul 2006 From: UK Posts: 6,114 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare
The Indians communicated using smoke signals
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January 16th, 2010, 04:26 AM
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#5 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2008 From: India Posts: 1,957 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick The Indians communicated using smoke signals | So did the Chinese and Greeks and the Native Americans.
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January 16th, 2010, 05:28 AM
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#6 | | Epicurean
Joined: Mar 2009 From: Texas Posts: 23,843 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare
Geo. Washington kept campfires burning in order to fool the British of his troop movements.
I once saw a program on TV testing, in China, between signal towers using smoke to communicate vs a man on horse back and a car. In the end, the smoke system was faster.
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January 16th, 2010, 05:49 AM
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#7 | | Knows he knows not
Joined: Jul 2008 From: Sharkland Posts: 5,214 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare Quote:
Originally Posted by Himanil So did the Chinese and Greeks and the Native Americans. | And the Somalians. (Burning tires)
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January 16th, 2010, 11:30 AM
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#8 | | Creature of the Night
Joined: Nov 2007 From: Alba Posts: 7,628 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare
Smoke was used extensively in naval warfare prior to the introduction of ship-borne radar.
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January 16th, 2010, 01:42 PM
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#9 | | Backworldsman
Joined: Jun 2009 From: Glorious England Posts: 6,349 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare
The English used a system of beacons along the south coast to warn of invasion. Better luck next time, Spain!
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January 16th, 2010, 02:54 PM
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#10 | | The Adequate Mostly Harmless
Joined: Dec 2009 From: Tennessee Posts: 7,829 | Re: The use of smoke in warfare
Toxic smoke Quote:
In the early 16th century A.D. the inhabitants of Brazil, trying to drive back the Portuguese conquistadors, created blinding smoke by burning chilli-peppers over coals.
As early as the 4th century B.C. the Chinese used noxious smoke to defend besieged cities. As the attackers attempted to undermine the city walls the defenders would attempt to tap into their tunnels with terracotta pipes. Then a bellows would be used to pump in smoke and noxious gas from a nearby furnace, causing fits, poisoning, suffocation and death in the enemy miners. By A.D. 1000 poison-bombs, noxious substances mixed with gunpowder and resin, were regularly being tossed from catapults or, later, fired from cannon. One ‘Poisonous Smoke Bomb’ from A.D 1044 gave off thick clouds of smoke when it ignited causing “bleeding from the nose and mouth”. Another terror weapon of the same period was a bomb that mostly consisted of 15 lbs of human excrement (ground and finely sifted), mixed with a few other special ingredients such as arsenic, poisonous herbs and ground up beetles. The bomb was said to cause irritation and blistering of the skin, and to be able to penetrate gaps in clothing and armour, much like the mustard gas of World War One. To protect friendly troops it was recommended that they suck on black plums and liquorice.
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