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Old December 3rd, 2016, 03:05 AM   #21

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That's why Napoleon carried a printing press with him. Then of course there's Ike's famous D-Day speech, delivered the same way.
Thats true, Napoleon usually let batallion commanders read his speaches to the men.
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 06:21 AM   #22

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I know everybody has heard the old axiom about arguing strategy and/or tactics while real soldiers talk logistics.

In that vein forget the movies, forget the history books and consider the logistics of delivering a prebattle speech. While it is conceivable that a Lt, Capt, even a Major could possibly deliver such a speech to a squad...platoon...company...maybe even a regiment but on a potential battlefield it is simply impossible to do so, prior to the last few decades.

An unassisted voice in an open field simply would not carry further than the first few ranks and even that not clearly. As a trained classical singer I can tell you from personal experience how difficult it is to project a singing voice to more than a hundred or so without a microphone.
As I understand it, it was common for political speeches in places like the Roman forum to be repeated phrase by phrase by "repeaters" stationed around the area, doubling the radius of the speaker's voice. The same thing could happen in any army.

Or the general might speak while riding or walking down the line, so everyone hears at least part of his talk. Formations weren't all that deep, usually.

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Old January 9th, 2017, 06:44 AM   #23

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Dragutin Gavrilović:



Soldiers, exactly at three o'clock, the enemy is to be crushed by your fierce charge, destroyed by your grenades and bayonets. The honor of Belgrade, our capital, must not be stained. Soldiers! Heroes! The supreme command has erased our regiment from its records. Our regiment has been sacrificed for the honor of Belgrade and the Fatherland. Therefore, you no longer need to worry about your lives: they no longer exist. So, forward to glory! For the King and the Fatherland! Long live the King, Long live Belgrade!


This speech is probably not as fancy as some others, but for me at least, it is an amazing speech. Not long, not drawn out but straight to the point. Even Mackensen was amazed by the Serbian resistance. Gavrilović himself was wounded in the battle.

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Old January 9th, 2017, 02:59 PM   #24

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It may be a letter rather than a speech, but it's worth mentioning since it would have been read aloud to the men by their platoon sergeants, or the platoon or company commanders.
Effectively, it served the same purpose.

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Reminds me of Eisenhowers speech before D-day.



Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.
Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.
But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of 1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats, in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men. The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to Victory!
I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in battle.
We will accept nothing less than full Victory! Good luck! And let us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking.
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Old January 9th, 2017, 03:17 PM   #25

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Pre-Battle Speeches


Battle of Britain. Churchill. I am pretty sure it had an impact.

Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour."


http://www.winstonchurchill.org/reso...ir-finest-hour


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Old January 9th, 2017, 06:20 PM   #26

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As I understand it, it was common for political speeches in places like the Roman forum to be repeated phrase by phrase by "repeaters" stationed around the area, doubling the radius of the speaker's voice. The same thing could happen in any army.

Or the general might speak while riding or walking down the line, so everyone hears at least part of his talk. Formations weren't all that deep, usually.

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Also possible that the general gave a speech to a section of the line, said something else to another section or had someone else say something to them. At Zama Hannibal gave a speech to his veterans and had others speak to the other two lines.

Even if the historian didn't record exactly what the general said too. He was possibly on target about the gist of what he said.

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Valens had to spend two weeks in 378 whipping up support by speeches in order to get his army to march against the Goths at all.
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Also possible that the general gave a speech to a section of the line, said something else to another section or had someone else say something to them. At Zama Hannibal gave a speech to his veterans and had others speak to the other two lines.

Even if the historian didn't record exactly what the general said too. He was possibly on target about the gist of what he said.
I'm leaning more toward addressing a smaller part of the army and allowing the message to filter out with normal communication. Having numerous individuals stationed out a bit, but still within hearing distance, repeating everything would make for a very tiresome and boring speech, necessitating very short sentences, long pauses, and not being able to copy/mimic body language.

"FRIENDS, ROMANS, COUNTRYMEN..."

"friends, romans, countrymen..."

"LEND ME YOUR EARS..."

"lend me your rears..."

"NO, LEND ME YOUR EARS, AS IN HEARING"

"lend me your rears..."

"SCREW THIS, YOUR FIRED"
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The shortest and the best one

Messieurs les Anglais tirez les premiers

English gentlemen shoot first
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Still one of the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bxEBWppRzY
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