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Old November 29th, 2016, 09:51 PM   #1
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Any Feldmarschall and Generals not Nazis in the Wehrmacht?


I can only honestly think of Friedrich Paulus, Fritz Bayerlein and Hasso von Manteuffel. Maybe Udet (?).

The nazi classic ones: Model, Guderian, Walther von Reichenau, Rundstedt, Manstein, Rommel, Jodl, Keitel and Hermann Hoth.

I know that 20-26% of the Wehrmacht were N.S.D.A.P members so is kinda hard.

Thanks if anyone can help.

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Old November 29th, 2016, 10:43 PM   #2

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Well technically none of them were Nazis (party members) because members of the military were not allowed membership in the NSDAP.

I dunno maybe Eduard von Boehm Ermolli who was given an honorary field marshal's baton. Though Boehm Ermolli was too old to actually lead troops and probably not that trusted. He had commanded in the Austro-Hungarian army in WW1 but then lived in Czechoslovakia until it was annexed by the Germans. After that they let him stick around on his estate until he died in 1941.
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Well technically none of them were Nazis (party members) because members of the military were not allowed membership in the NSDAP.

I dunno maybe Eduard von Boehm Ermolli who was given an honorary field marshal's baton. Though Boehm Ermolli was too old to actually lead troops and probably not that trusted. He had commanded in the Austro-Hungarian army in WW1 but then lived in Czechoslovakia until it was annexed by the Germans. After that they let him stick around on his estate until he died in 1941.
Let me put in other view them. People that don't saw the russians as non-humans... another one that comes to my mind is Wilhelm Ritter von Thoma. He was in charge of the 17th Panzer Division. He hated the nazis and all that went within.
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Let me put in other view them. People that don't saw the russians as non-humans... another one that comes to my mind is Wilhelm Ritter von Thoma. He was in charge of the 17th Panzer Division. He hated the nazis and all that went within.
I think it's pretty well known that much of the Prussian military class and military hierarchy in general weren't enormous fans of Hitler and paid lipservice where possible.

But I'm not sure that is entirely connected to the German officer's view of Russians, or most enemies for that matter. They still had an inherent superiority complex, one thing that set them apart from the 'peasant' Nazi leadership..
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I think it's pretty well known that much of the Prussian military class and military hierarchy in general weren't enormous fans of Hitler and paid lipservice where possible.

But I'm not sure that is entirely connected to the German officer's view of Russians, or most enemies for that matter. They still had an inherent superiority complex, one thing that set them apart from the 'peasant' Nazi leadership..
I don't really agree with that (see this) even more after reading Soldaten (the new book by Sönke Neitzel).

To the matter at hand. I'm sure there's a few generals that went to war without thinking of Lebensraum, the myth of Judeo-Bolshevism, etc. But whom?
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I don't really agree with that
Really? I thought it was general knowledge but I'll wait for the intervention of an expert on the period.
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Really? I thought it was general knowledge but I'll wait for the intervention of an expert on the period.
I am no expert either, but believe Admiral Canaris was never a nazi.
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Came across this, the Oster Conspiracy of 1938:

Learn and talk about Oster Conspiracy, 1938 in Germany, Assassination attempts, Attempted coups, Conflicts in 1938
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Erwin Rommeme
He killed very few jews and when he did that was only to be polite toward his peers who proposed him to
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I mean Rommel wasn't genocidal etc but he still supported the NSDAP.
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