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Old March 15th, 2017, 02:44 PM   #1
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What was the most stupid decisions in WW2?


What in your opinion was the most stupid decisions on allied side and what was the most stupid decisions on the axis side?

I would dare say the Italian invasion of Greece in October 1940 was pretty stupid taken in consideration that Mussolini did not consult Hitler first and the fact that his troops were not really prepared enough and the fact that they got wrecked by the greeks.
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Hitler declaring war on US in support of Japan
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Hitler declaring war on US in support of Japan
I kinda knew that was coming.
It wasn't a stupid decision at all, it was perhaps the best option available.
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I kinda knew that was coming.
It wasn't a stupid decision at all, it was perhaps the best option available.
Wasn't war with the US inevitable anyway?

Japan was in an alliance with Nazi Germany and Italy which the british had fought for quite a while at that point and the US would most likely had allied with the british anyway since the japanese launched an offesive against british teritories in asia and against the american controlled phillipines. Wouldn't this bring Germany into the war anyway?
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I agree. What's the point in declaring war on a country you have no way of attacking, but who is able to attack you? Even more insane when you are also heavily involved in a war with the Soviet Union and Britain, as well as having to control the populations of several countries you have invaded. Ok, it could be argued that he was simply getting there first before the US declared war on them, but still... And I am still of the opinion that if Hitler had publicly denounced Japan's actions and offered support to the US, it would have strengthened the argument for the US to fight the war in the East rather than become involved in a European war.

In my opinion Hitler's decision to go to war with the US far outweighs any of his other military disasters.

Is there any record of what his commanders thought about this decision?
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Hard to say, but it always struck me as extremely stupid strategically, not to speak of the ethical dimension, to keep killing Jews and Slavs. Had the Nazis not diverted so much attention to their idiotic ideological fantasies they could have earned the trust of the people suffering under Stalin, maybe gain valuable manpower or cooperation with logistics or food provision. Instead, they managed to antagonise those people, and create problems for themselves primarily in the form of partisan activity. Even if, for whatever reason, the Wehrmacht had taken Moskow and defeated the Red Army, the German economy was barely able to support a few months of regular campaigning in the East, it would never have been possible to hold conquered territory long term with a hostile population, or dead population for that matter, as the Nazis desperately needed workers, clerks and soldiers/police.
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I agree. What's the point in declaring war on a country you have no way of attacking, but who is able to attack you? Even more insane when you are also heavily involved in a war with the Soviet Union and Britain, as well as having to control the populations of several countries you have invaded. Ok, it could be argued that he was simply getting there first before the US declared war on them, but still... And I am still of the opinion that if Hitler had publicly denounced Japan's actions and offered support to the US, it would have strengthened the argument for the US to fight the war in the East rather than become involved in a European war.

In my opinion Hitler's decision to go to war with the US far outweighs any of his other military disasters.

Is there any record of what his commanders thought about this decision?
Wouldn't the fact that the japanese was allied with the germans basically draw the americans into a war with Germany anyway?
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Hard to say, but it always struck me as extremely stupid strategically, not to speak of the ethical dimension, to keep killing Jews and Slavs. Had the Nazis not diverted so much attention to their idiotic ideological fantasies they could have earned the trust of the people suffering under Stalin, maybe gain valuable manpower or cooperation with logistics or food provision. Instead, they managed to antagonise those people, and create problems for themselves primarily in the form of partisan activity. Even if, for whatever reason, the Wehrmacht had taken Moskow and defeated the Red Army, the German economy was barely able to support a few months of regular campaigning in the East, it would never have been possible to hold conquered territory long term with a hostile population, or dead population for that matter, as the Nazis desperately needed workers, clerks and soldiers/police.
I have thought about the same, many people in the baltics and the ukraine thought the germans were liberators in the beginning and wre willing t collaborate with the germans, but for some stupid reason the nazis wantet to make them slaves or exterminate them and resettle their lands with german settlers.
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I agree. What's the point in declaring war on a country you have no way of attacking, but who is able to attack you?
Marvin, you have that backwards.
Germany can attack the US, but the US lacks the ability to attack Germany in a significant way for at least 6-10 months
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1. Hitler issuing the infamous Stop Order May 1940

2. Hitler ordering the invasion of the USSR

3. Hitler ordering German forces to divert into the Ukraine instead of pressing on to Moscow

4. Japan attacking Pearl Harbor (and other targets)

5. Hitler declaring war on the USA


I could add, Hitler / Germany fighting to the bitter end....Japan fighting until hit by the bomb (twice).
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