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Viperlord July 15th, 2017 10:01 AM

Greatest American General
 
Inspired somewhat by a recent thread about ranking a few specific American generals and the response to that. Who here is your choice for the greatest American general over the course of US military history? I included what I think are the most notable names from the Revolution up to Korea; I didn't think anyone past that would attract much support, but if I'm wrong, that's what the "other" option is for. I attempted to favor generals who exercised high and independent levels of command. You can vote for multiple names on the poll; I intended to make it so you can vote for a max of three, but I didn't see an option for that. Nevertheless, I'd encourage picking no more than three to five. Discussion very much welcome, I'll post my own picks slightly later on.

Son of Athena July 15th, 2017 10:41 AM

I voted for Grant, Marshall, and Bradley.

Grant: Used the North's superior numbers and industrial capability to decisively win the war, no matter the cost. Labeled by some as a butcher and a drunk, I feel that both labels are inaccurate and do not do justice to his competency after years of subpar Union generals.

Marshall: Realized that a punitive peace settlement on Germany would only lead to yet another war and devised the Marshall Plan. Oversaw the military from Washington, D.C. and allowed the generals in the field to do their job.

Bradley: From what little I have read on the man he seemed like a true "soldier's soldier", concerned with their welfare and did his best to see that his troops had everything necessary to achieve victory without seeking glory for himself. He also had to manage Patton for awhile and that alone was a Herculean task.

Bophis July 15th, 2017 10:52 AM

Washington. Washington was both a grand strategist and a fantastic field commander. On top of that he was a hero in his own right and had no qualms about rushing into combat wherever he was needed. Known more for being the father of the country, but in reality he is amazingly underrated. The revolution seemed to have a lot of good generals but he deserves to be remembered regardless of happening to become a giant piece of history.

Lee. Lee was another fantastic all around general. Very crafty but at the same time I am not sure he could fill Washington's shoes in the grand strategy sense as well as the tactical sense or else they may well have won the war against all odds. Especially a standout in comparison to the other generals of the war, though that may have been largely due to a reluctance of most of the generals to fight it and waste american lives.

Patton. Great field commander and great planner when needed, did his best to end the war asap but was gentle towards civilians and prisoners unlike many of the US generals. I think several of the German generals can claim to be the best of the war but he was probably the best of the allies in world war II, and would have been able to hold his own against the best the Germans had on even terms.

macon July 15th, 2017 01:01 PM

In my opinion nobody of them deserves to be top 100 of all times.

Viperlord July 15th, 2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by macon (Post 2788162)
In my opinion nobody of them deserves to be top 100 of all times.

Good thing that wasn't the thread topic, then. I don't suppose you have anything to add other than anti-American snobbery?

Scaeva July 15th, 2017 01:42 PM

Scott, Grant, and Sherman* in that order.

Sherman was a mediocre tactician, but I think he was also one of the best strategists the United States produced, and a superb logistician.

Bophis July 15th, 2017 01:43 PM

It's hard or impossible to compare washington and general lee to caesar or hannibal, it's like comparing a rock band to a string quartet.

Scaeva July 15th, 2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bophis (Post 2788192)
It's hard or impossible to compare washington and general lee to caesar or hannibal, it's like comparing a rock band to a string quartet.

Good thing that isn't what is going on in this thread. The original post simply asked who was the greatest American general, not how they stack up against Caesar or Alexander.

Frank81 July 15th, 2017 02:39 PM

This is excluding admirals, right? I could name Chester Nimitz as the best American commander ever.

Discounting the seas, I want to do a special mention to William Simpson, whose Ninth Army performed the most brilliant American operation of WWII

http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/wp-...Simpson019.jpg

Bophis July 15th, 2017 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scaeva (Post 2788194)
Good thing that isn't what is going on in this thread. The original post simply asked who was the greatest American general, not how they stack up against Caesar or Alexander.

I wasn't doing that, you obviously didn't read the thread or I wouldn't have to tell you that.


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