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Old November 9th, 2017, 04:22 AM   #41

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No one lied about Hannibal's fantastic victory at the River Tagus against more than 100,000 Iberian tribesmen with an army way smaller than Caesar's at Alesia, no sir. I'll not stand for any doubters!
Not familiar with the victory personally. I'm seriously not hoping that you take Caesar's words at face value ? ie. 250,000 Gallic reinforcements... [clearly an exaggeration].
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Old November 9th, 2017, 04:57 AM   #42

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Not familiar with the victory personally. I'm seriously not hoping that you take Caesar's words at face value ? ie. 250,000 Gallic reinforcements... [clearly an exaggeration].
It's one of his earlier ones, campaigning in Spain a few years before the Second Punic War, detailed sadly sparingly by Polybius (3.14) and Livy (21.5). It certainly showed off some of his skills to come.

And no, figures should always be taken with a grain of salt...
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Sparingly detailed yet Hannibal's enemies numbered 100,000 plus without a doubt?
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Old November 9th, 2017, 09:48 AM   #44

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Sparingly detailed yet Hannibal's enemies numbered 100,000 plus without a doubt?
That's what two obscure passages reveal with no further information. It must be true.

On a serious note, it was a fair few tribes that got together, and judging by Hannibal's actions, he was outnumbered, but I'd be surprised if they numbered more than 30,000-40,000 men.
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Ohhhh I legimately thought you were being serious
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Old November 9th, 2017, 02:52 PM   #46
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No one lied about Hannibal's fantastic victory at the River Tagus against more than 100,000 Iberian tribesmen with an army way smaller than Caesar's at Alesia, no sir. I'll not stand for any doubters!
If fact, they underestimated about the Iberian tribesman that day. EVERYONE from Iberia was there. If Hannibal was really smart, he could have just troll into their strongholds and just become king there. Silly man. Then he could have just sit back and relax during the Second Punic War.
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If fact, they underestimated about the Iberian tribesman that day. EVERYONE from Iberia was there. If Hannibal was really smart, he could have just troll into their strongholds and just become king there. Silly man. Then he could have just sit back and relax during the Second Punic War.
How is it that simple?
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How is it that simple?
I think he was being sarcastic.
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I hope so.
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I hope so.
Mariusj has a high opinion of Hannibal as a commander, so he would hardly call him a "silly man"...
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