Re: Are White people the best fighters?
Ah the true ignorance.
Who's not white and had success in conquering and war? Do you even realize that the Far East is a breeding ground for exceedingly competent generals who innovated inventions such as seismometers, wooden computers, calenders, and oh yeah, gunpowder.
The white men best at conquering? GENGHIS KHAN! For one he carved out the largest land empire in the world. The Mongols which so terrified the peoples of Europe that Russia became their pets and France was looking to ally itself with them to attack and defeat their rivals. The tartars that ruled most of Russian region and was a significant military force in Europe.
Now for the Chinese, oh dear god the Chinese... Sun Tzu? Is there anyone alive who has not heard of him and has access to education as well as a computer?
Wang Jian and Qin Shi Huangdi. Qin Shi Huangdi (Ying Zheng) conquered an area far larger than Charlemagne ever could and established a single writing system. His effects on the world took well over a thousand years before Charlemagne was even an after thought.
Han Xin of the early Han dynasty, widely considered to be one of the best generals in history.
Xiang Yu, never lost a single battle besides the one where he died in, or so the story goes. In any case he was a very successful general it's just that he was a horrid administrator. Since this is just about conquering...
Cao Cao the man who laid the foundations for an empire after the decline of the Later Han. Liu Bei and Zhuge Liang his rivals in the west, Sun Quan, Lu Xun, Lu Meng, and Zhou Yu in the east.
Gongsun Du who conquered much of northern Korea influencing their history for centuries to come.
We get Huan who was a general under later Jin but first let's name the man who united China for the third time, Sima Yan and his generals Wang Jin and a dozen of his own relatives.
The we get Liu Yu of later Jin but he would later found his own dynasty the Liu Song for conquering great swaths of land.
And then I could go on for pages about great conquerors for China.
Nobunaga Oda, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Tokugawa Ieyeasu. The three great unifier of Japan.
The Meiji Restoration and Japan. Japan humiliated the Russians in a war, yes them white folk sure were the best conquerors when faced with the might asians from an Island chain which elected to remain isolated from the world for hundreds of years just a few decades prior.
Oh Japan... the only nation in the far east that could stand up against the Europeans. Actually the only nation period. That's not to say that "White folk are better" it's saying that "White folk have small pox" when talking about the Americas, "White folk have guns, advanced weaponry, and military armies" when talking about most of everything else including the Americas. Even then they lost. Ethiopia in Africa for instance was the only native African nation to resist conquest by the Europeans, they may not have been on par, but they could defeat the Italians, at least until WW2 and Mussolini started gassing them to death.
Attila the Hun? There's debate on whether or not he's Russian or from deeper into Asia, but he counts.
Carthage was not "white people". That means Hannibal of Barca should jump into your mind.
The Incas were great conquerors.
The Aztecs were great conquerors.
Why they lost? Well the Aztecs were easily frightened by guns, horses, and the white folk had the "we're gods" rumor spreading around. They also had diseases.
The Incas is a much sadder tale. They resisted Spanish conquest, even defeating their standing armies and recapturing lost lands. Too bad up to 98% of their population died. That is down right incompressible. Imagine 98 out of a hundred people dying from a foreign illness? A group of 50,000 take a city from the Spaniards, barely 1000 make it out and most of those die on the trek back to a base and infect those people. The Inca are the unsong heroes of the Americas. The spaniards won not of conquering skill or advanced technology, but all they had to do was simply be there and nearly everyone would die. That said the Incas still did a remarkable job in maintaining independence further south for decades.
Who else? Ah the Indians. Mughals anyone? (Technically they were Mongols). Alexander the Great? Yup this is the one place he couldn't conquer. He made it probably a little bit inside the country before needing to turn back.
The Sultanate of Delhi
Persia anyone? Those aren't white people.
The Great Caliphate! They conquered most of the medditeranean south of Byzantium, and they defeated them, just didn't conquer much from them. Persia basically capitulated.
There are so many nations I just want to list, so many people I want to bring up! It's just I have a feeling this topic will be closed soon so it would really all just go to waste.